Aston Villa v Celtic Post-Match Thread

[LeeB]

Said it before, Holte Enders In The Sky more than does the job for me. It's distinctive, it's Johnny Cash, it's hair-raising but a bit tongue-in-cheek (which is very us - leave the sentimental treacle to the Scousers), and it makes me think - as in the thread on this forum with the same name - of Villa fans of generations gone before us, the unbroken link back to the lamp post in 1874. If we can do all that in one musical phrase we don't need some poxy drawn-out song co-opted by the club higher-ups and blaring out of the tannoy. Let's keep that sort of thing where it belongs - at West Ham.

Yes, it's an extremely fine line with 'club anthems' between spine tingling and vomit inducing.

Though West Ham's bubbles nonesense is nothing on their cross-arms Bros impersonations, the sad bastards.

[frankmosswasmyuncle]

Featuring Wee John McGinn not knowing the words.

Love that, really do.

Featuring Wee John McGinn not knowing the words.

Love that, really do.

I play this every now and again, as an example of a proper football adopted anthem.
The context of the Hibs win over Rangers in the Cup, the whole of the Hibs lot staying to share the experience with the team, and them all singing it together gives me goosebumps! Brilliant!

[RamboandBruno]

Said it before, Holte Enders In The Sky more than does the job for me. It's distinctive, it's Johnny Cash, it's hair-raising but a bit tongue-in-cheek (which is very us - leave the sentimental treacle to the Scousers), and it makes me think - as in the thread on this forum with the same name - of Villa fans of generations gone before us, the unbroken link back to the lamp post in 1874. If we can do all that in one musical phrase we don't need some poxy drawn-out song co-opted by the club higher-ups and blaring out of the tannoy. Let's keep that sort of thing where it belongs - at West Ham.

Perfect Monty.
I love it when we sing it on the Holte at any time, but for me there is something about a cold late afternoon in the winter with the floodlights on, its just evocative of everything you have said.

I also just love the simple gut wrenching emotion of Villa till I Die when the Holte are really on it.

The death theme resonates obviously

[RamboandBruno]

Featuring Wee John McGinn not knowing the words.

Love that, really do.

Featuring Wee John McGinn not knowing the words.

Love that, really do.

I play this every now and again, as an example of a proper football adopted anthem.
The context of the Hibs win over Rangers in the Cup, the whole of the Hibs lot staying to share the experience with the team, and them all singing it together gives me goosebumps! Brilliant!

Water to my eyes!!

[Drummond]

Just why we've decided to play pre-recorded versions of songs baffles and pisses me off at the same time

[astonvilla82]

Using republican songs is wrong in any context

Why?

Maybe I should have been clearer. Where it's intention is solely to cause offence.

The various Union Jacks there last night which aren't normally brought to Villa matches presumably were also only there to cause offence though.

Go onto Facebook and suggest that having a Union Flag and waving it in the UK is offensive. I double dare you.

Think it's more of a shit stirring issue, same as if Rangers visited someone waving the Irish flag as happened last time we played them

[The Edge]

Using republican songs is wrong in any context

Why?

Maybe I should have been clearer. Where it's intention is solely to cause offence.

The various Union Jacks there last night which aren't normally brought to Villa matches presumably were also only there to cause offence though.

Go onto Facebook and suggest that having a Union Flag and waving it in the UK is offensive. I double dare you.

Think it's more of a shit stirring issue, same as if Rangers visited someone waving the Irish flag as happened last time we played them

Having read a lot of comments on this subject over the last couple of days I'm left thinking this. Are Celtic more Irish than Scottish? I mean watching them jigging to the Irish bands in Digbeth the other day I had to remind myself that they are actually a Scottish club.

[Monty]

Celtic are the club of Weegies who enjoy pretending to be Irish.

As opposed to Rangers, we the club of Weegies who for psychologically complex reasons cosplay as English monarchists on their spare time.

[astonvilla82]

Using republican songs is wrong in any context

Why?

Maybe I should have been clearer. Where it's intention is solely to cause offence.

The various Union Jacks there last night which aren't normally brought to Villa matches presumably were also only there to cause offence though.

Go onto Facebook and suggest that having a Union Flag and waving it in the UK is offensive. I double dare you.

Think it's more of a shit stirring issue, same as if Rangers visited someone waving the Irish flag as happened last time we played them

Having read a lot of comments on this subject over the last couple of days I'm left thinking this. Are Celtic more Irish than Scottish? I mean watching them jigging to the Irish bands in Digbeth the other day I had to remind myself that they are actually a Scottish club.

I don't think so, it's more of the hatred of extreme loyalism towards Irish Catholics,my parents were Irish born one Northern Ireland one in the Republic of Ireland, I am English born, got a British passport and took the oath of allegiance to the late Queen Elizabeth, tried to enlist in the British army upon leaving school in 1975 but mum wouldn't sign the paperwork and she said I don't want you coming home in a box ,her brother's were ex army and royal navy previously, people have asked why don't I get a Irish passport because I can get one, but I am happy with my British passport.Being English obviously with my English accent, certain people let their guard down with making sectarian comments about  Catholics especially when you have known them for years and truthfully when these comments were made it knocked me for six especially when you have elements of extreme loyalism involved and as I said would the same type of comment be made of our support from the ethic community, ironically as I took my seat in the Holte End on Wednesday I looked up and seen the Punjabi Villain banners containing the word devestity and questioned my birthright,in Scotland it is no different, unless you look for you don't realise how  sectarianism is a serious issue towards Catholics, regarding such things still marching pass Catholic churches, killing a Catholic because he wore a Celtic shirt actually slit his throat, that may have happened twice but not one hundred percent sure,  Rangers bouncy bouncy I believe is connected to a young lad killed by those from the loyalist community in Northern Ireland by jumping up and down on his head, the brother in law witnessed a young lad getting ten bells out of him many years ago outside the pub after a Celtic Rangers game, he intervened and the police turned up all of a sudden,he noticed the lad was wearing a Celtic top Niel Lennon getting bullets sent in the post after the Heart's game, another club connected with loyalism, can you imagine the up roar if this happened with the ethic community,oh it only Paddy it's not that important , that why especially in Glasgow it's a case of us against them because government aren't going to do anything else, I myself question my support for Aston Villa, but have now recovered , unless you have been on the recieving end of sectarianism it had to realise what it like, like many from the ethic population you question whether you belong, but I am English with Irish parents and here to stay, take away extreme loyalism and the issue of republicanism I believe will disappear, sorry it's a long post , should have added that many believe the conflict began in 1969 was a united Ireland thing but it was a actually civil rights issue which developed into a united Ireland cause

[astonvilla82]

Using republican songs is wrong in any context

Why?

Maybe I should have been clearer. Where it's intention is solely to cause offence.

The various Union Jacks there last night which aren't normally brought to Villa matches presumably were also only there to cause offence though.

Go onto Facebook and suggest that having a Union Flag and waving it in the UK is offensive. I double dare you.

Think it's more of a shit stirring issue, same as if Rangers visited someone waving the Irish flag as happened last time we played them

Having read a lot of comments on this subject over the last couple of days I'm left thinking this. Are Celtic more Irish than Scottish? I mean watching them jigging to the Irish bands in Digbeth the other day I had to remind myself that they are actually a Scottish club.

I don't think so, it's more of the hatred of extreme loyalism towards Irish Catholics,my parents were Irish born one Northern Ireland one in the Republic of Ireland, I am English born, got a British passport and took the oath of allegiance to the late Queen Elizabeth, tried to enlist in the British army upon leaving school in 1975 but mum wouldn't sign the paperwork and she said I don't want you coming home in a box ,her brother's were ex army and royal navy previously, people have asked why don't I get a Irish passport because I can get one, but I am happy with my British passport.Being English obviously with my English accent, certain people let their guard down with making sectarian comments about  Catholics especially when you have known them for years and truthfully when these comments were made it knocked me for six especially when you have elements of extreme loyalism involved and as I said would the same type of comment be made of our support from the ethic community, ironically as I took my seat in the Holte End on Wednesday I looked up and seen the Punjabi Villain banners containing the word devestity and questioned my birthright,in Scotland it is no different, unless you look for you don't realise how  sectarianism is a serious issue towards Catholics, regarding such things still marching pass Catholic churches, killing a Catholic because he wore a Celtic shirt actually slit his throat, that may have happened twice but not one hundred percent sure,  Rangers bouncy bouncy I believe is connected to a young lad killed by those from the loyalist community in Northern Ireland by jumping up and down on his head, the brother in law witnessed a young lad getting ten bells out of him many years ago outside the pub after a Celtic Rangers game, he intervened and the police turned up all of a sudden,he noticed the lad was wearing a Celtic top Niel Lennon getting bullets sent in the post after the Heart's game, another club connected with loyalism, can you imagine the up roar if this happened with the ethic community,oh it only Paddy it's not that important , that why especially in Glasgow it's a case of us against them because government aren't going to do anything else, I myself question my support for Aston Villa, but have now recovered , unless you have been on the recieving end of sectarianism it had to realise what it like, like many from the ethic population you question whether you belong, but I am English with Irish parents and here to stay, take away extreme loyalism and the issue of republicanism I believe will disappear, sorry it's a long post , should have added that many believe the conflict began in 1969 was a united Ireland thing but it was a actually civil rights issue which developed into a united Ireland cause

I think I should add that we were in Benidorm when Scotland were playing Spain many years ago, some young people from Inverness were in the same hotel approximately 15 of them with the majority Rangers supporters and one Celtic, also joining in the company was a man living in Stoke and constantly spouting on he was from the SHANKILL many times and going on about the SHANKILL butchers,my wife from the bogside of Londonderry so he kept repeating it, but give the older person in charge of these young Scottish told him basically shut the fuck up we including him don't want to hear that shit, the young lads were a credit to Scotland and their parents and gave me hope for the future of both communities, just thought I added this to balance up the previous comment

[steamer]

Using republican songs is wrong in any context

Why?

Maybe I should have been clearer. Where it's intention is solely to cause offence.

The various Union Jacks there last night which aren't normally brought to Villa matches presumably were also only there to cause offence though.

Go onto Facebook and suggest that having a Union Flag and waving it in the UK is offensive. I double dare you.

Think it's more of a shit stirring issue, same as if Rangers visited someone waving the Irish flag as happened last time we played them
poor late Shaun

[dave.woodhall]

21 arrests, 19 of them Celtic.

[Rory]

21 arrests, 19 of them Celtic.

Have any of our lot on that video been found/arrested yet?

[markeeeebeeee2005]

Using republican songs is wrong in any context

Why?

Maybe I should have been clearer. Where it's intention is solely to cause offence.

The various Union Jacks there last night which aren't normally brought to Villa matches presumably were also only there to cause offence though.

Go onto Facebook and suggest that having a Union Flag and waving it in the UK is offensive. I double dare you.

Think it's more of a shit stirring issue, same as if Rangers visited someone waving the Irish flag as happened last time we played them
poor late Shaun

If Rangers are waving the Irish flag then there might be some friendly fire.

[PeterWithesShin]

https://www.facebook.com/watch?v=2319212271770588