Yasin Ozcan (now out on loan at Anderlecht)

[Olneythelonely]

That's equal to 3 weeks of an injured Rashford!

once we were out the ECL the guy bailed on us . He did play well at times though but was always a temporary move .

Coops has just figured out what a loan is.

[Steve67]

I don’t suppose this young man is part of the A-list squad and him going out on loan means we can bring somebody in.

[pauliewalnuts]

I don’t suppose this young man is part of the A-list squad and him going out on loan means we can bring somebody in.

Yeah but we've only just brought him in

[PaulWinch again]

Disasi is the obvious answer if we’re so minded to actually add to the squad. As a centre-half I’m happy with him as an option and he was part of our A squad so he’s not an addition - if I’ve understood correctly.

[Olneythelonely]

I don’t suppose this young man is part of the A-list squad and him going out on loan means we can bring somebody in.

That’s not how it works. He wasn’t in the A-list last season either, because he didn’t play for us.

[Steve67]

I don’t suppose this young man is part of the A-list squad and him going out on loan means we can bring somebody in.

That’s not how it works. He wasn’t in the A-list last season either, because he didn’t play for us.

But couldn't we tell EUFA that he'd have been part of the A list for this season but the offer from Anderlecht was too good to turn down? Genuine question as I'm unclear on this ruling. I presume we cannot add a single player without selling one, when we have no asensio, rashford, disasi etc this season?

[Dave]

If we're reading it right, it's that we can't have any new players who weren't on last seasons A list unless we have a positive spend on players who were on that list.

So getting money for say, Moreno doesn't help. It also means we can't use Malen or Garcia in Europe unless we have a positive net spend as they weren't on that list last season.

But ironically we could use Disasi if we bought him, presumably.

[Villatillidie25]

If we're reading it right, it's that we can't have any new players who weren't on last seasons A list unless we have a positive spend on players who were on that list.

So getting money for say, Moreno doesn't help. It also means we can't use Malen or Garcia in Europe unless we have a positive net spend as they weren't on that list last season.

But ironically we could use Disasi if we bought him, presumably.

Jeese that is punitive. I’d assumed it was just total spend from last seasons a-list (ie were already Disasi rashford asensio up but Malen Garcia down) seems mental that the actual players have to be the same…

[Steve67]

I think I am just not getting this. Last year‘s A list contained Rashford, Disasi, Asensio, who are all now gone but surely they can be replaced by Malen and Garcia? Olson has been replaced by Bizot and we have space for one more player as only two of the three outfield players have been replaced?

[Richard]

I think I am just not getting this. Last year‘s A list contained Rashford, Disasi, Asensio, who are all now gone but surely they can be replaced by Malen and Garcia? Olson has been replaced by Bizot and we have space for one more player as only two of the three outfield players have been replaced?

I'm not getting it either. The rules are crazy. They only seem to affect us as well.

[Somniloquism]

I think I am just not getting this. Last year‘s A list contained Rashford, Disasi, Asensio, who are all now gone but surely they can be replaced by Malen and Garcia? Olson has been replaced by Bizot and we have space for one more player as only two of the three outfield players have been replaced?

I'm not getting it either. The rules are crazy. They only seem to affect us as well.

Someone mentioned Chelsea paid extra in a fine so they wouldn't be under those rules, which is lucky for them being as the A list last season was the bomb squad mostly so very few of the £200mil they have bought in could be registered. (Reports online seem to think they have been hit with the same restrictions though.)

[Mister E]

According to the press statement we "could be prevented from registering new players for Uefa competitions for the forthcoming season unless they [we] have a positive transfer balance by the end of the summer transfer window."
Two bits are important: 'could be prevented' is not a definitive statement of action but a conditional.
'positive transfer balance' strongly suggests that the focus is not on numbers of players but on the financial status - we need to bring in more dosh than we spend.

[Dave]

I think I am just not getting this. Last year‘s A list contained Rashford, Disasi, Asensio, who are all now gone but surely they can be replaced by Malen and Garcia? Olson has been replaced by Bizot and we have space for one more player as only two of the three outfield players have been replaced?

They could, were we not being punished by UEFA.

They're basically saying "you've been naughty transfer boys and spent too much, so until you get your house in order you can't use any of your shiny new toys in our competitions. If you fix it by bringing in more than you spend for a bit, you can bring your new players to our party".

It's the sort of sanction that I imagine we'd be applauding for it's common sense if it were happening to someone else.

The UEFA ruling says

All clubs further agreed to be subject to a restriction on the registration of new players on their List A for UEFA club competitions. Such a measure could be conditional, unconditional or both and covers one or more seasons depending on the length of the settlement.

Moreover, all clubs agreed to reach intermediate annual targets, and to the application of conditional financial and sporting measures should these targets not be met (i.e. stricter restriction on the registration of new players on the list A and exclusion from the next UEFA club competitions for which they will qualify).

But the whole "conditional" thing does seem interesting. But it's hard to see why we're not doing anything and all the other clubs are merrily bringing in players.

[frank black]

I think I am just not getting this. Last year‘s A list contained Rashford, Disasi, Asensio, who are all now gone but surely they can be replaced by Malen and Garcia? Olson has been replaced by Bizot and we have space for one more player as only two of the three outfield players have been replaced?

I'm not getting it either. The rules are crazy. They only seem to affect us as well.

Someone mentioned Chelsea paid extra in a fine so they wouldn't be under those rules, which is lucky for them being as the A list last season was the bomb squad mostly so very few of the £200mil they have bought in could be registered. (Reports online seem to think they have been hit with the same restrictions though.)

Surely that can’t be true, they can’t have pay as you play FFP, depending on how much you pay.

[Somniloquism]

I think I am just not getting this. Last year‘s A list contained Rashford, Disasi, Asensio, who are all now gone but surely they can be replaced by Malen and Garcia? Olson has been replaced by Bizot and we have space for one more player as only two of the three outfield players have been replaced?

I'm not getting it either. The rules are crazy. They only seem to affect us as well.

Someone mentioned Chelsea paid extra in a fine so they wouldn't be under those rules, which is lucky for them being as the A list last season was the bomb squad mostly so very few of the £200mil they have bought in could be registered. (Reports online seem to think they have been hit with the same restrictions though.)

Surely that can’t be true, they can’t have pay as you play FFP, depending on how much you pay.

Paid an extra fine and deferred the punishment for a year. Paul-e mentions it again in the FFP thread about the deferrment, although I haven't found anything to state it has anywhere else and they supposedly have the restrictions for the next two seasons according to the initial UEFA punishment.