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Author Topic: Aston Villa 2 Brighton 2 Post Match Thread.  (Read 12885 times)

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Re: Aston Villa 2 Brighton 2 Post Match Thread.
« Reply #165 on: December 31, 2024, 11:45:18 AM »
When strikers  do not finish off team's hard work it puts extra pressure on defence, impacts confidence and generally leads to a compromised result. Attackers make 10x as many mistakes as defenders. Let's not oile it all on defence.

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Re: Aston Villa 2 Brighton 2 Post Match Thread.
« Reply #166 on: December 31, 2024, 11:47:28 AM »
Digne has been one of our better players this season, makes no sense dropping him for Maatsen who has looked very hit and miss .

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Re: Aston Villa 2 Brighton 2 Post Match Thread.
« Reply #167 on: December 31, 2024, 11:51:04 AM »
Or the defence that can't defend a simple long ball put pressure on the attack, which still did their job by putting us 2-1 up with 10 to go. Your attack scoring twice at home to a side that hadn't won in 6 isn't the failure.

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Re: Aston Villa 2 Brighton 2 Post Match Thread.
« Reply #168 on: December 31, 2024, 11:55:40 AM »
Or the defence that can't defend a simple long ball put pressure on the attack, which still did their job by putting us 2-1 up with 10 to go. Your attack scoring twice at home to a side that hadn't won in 6 isn't the failure.

Quite - and it’s not just the “defence”, although that first goal was entirely Konsa, it’s the whole defensive system.

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Re: Aston Villa 2 Brighton 2 Post Match Thread.
« Reply #169 on: December 31, 2024, 11:56:38 AM »
When strikers  do not finish off team's hard work it puts extra pressure on defence, impacts confidence and generally leads to a compromised result. Attackers make 10x as many mistakes as defenders. Let's not oile it all on defence.

Do you think a team should have to score 3 times in most games to win a match though?

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Re: Aston Villa 2 Brighton 2 Post Match Thread.
« Reply #170 on: December 31, 2024, 12:02:08 PM »
Or the defence that can't defend a simple long ball put pressure on the attack, which still did their job by putting us 2-1 up with 10 to go. Your attack scoring twice at home to a side that hadn't won in 6 isn't the failure.

Quite - and it’s not just the “defence”, although that first goal was entirely Konsa, it’s the whole defensive system.

I wouldn't say it's entirely Konsa, given he's only there in the first place because Diego Carlos is nowhere to be seen.

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Re: Aston Villa 2 Brighton 2 Post Match Thread.
« Reply #171 on: December 31, 2024, 12:02:23 PM »
It’s not an either or

Defence is rubbish
Attack is profligate

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Re: Aston Villa 2 Brighton 2 Post Match Thread.
« Reply #172 on: December 31, 2024, 12:05:48 PM »
When strikers  do not finish off team's hard work it puts extra pressure on defence, impacts confidence and generally leads to a compromised result. Attackers make 10x as many mistakes as defenders. Let's not oile it all on defence.
Do you think a team should have to score 3 times in most games to win a match though?
That's not the point.  An effective attack would have killed off Brighton long before we started getting nervous in the last 10.

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Re: Aston Villa 2 Brighton 2 Post Match Thread.
« Reply #173 on: December 31, 2024, 12:06:24 PM »
We played well in patches, but weren't clinical enough. 3-1 up with 25mins to go and they would have collapsed.
Too slow with later subs. Unai seemed to be hanging on as long as he could when we needed fresh legs.
Konsa seemed surprised as to how quick Mitoma is.

Bailey was decent, but I'm not a fan; he takes too long to move the ball and seems to take the hard option.
Booby was class.

Ref was terrible.

PS why was their number 9 allowed 5mins of treatment on the pitch when it was clear it wasn't a life threatening injury?

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Re: Aston Villa 2 Brighton 2 Post Match Thread.
« Reply #174 on: December 31, 2024, 12:15:21 PM »
When strikers  do not finish off team's hard work it puts extra pressure on defence, impacts confidence and generally leads to a compromised result. Attackers make 10x as many mistakes as defenders. Let's not oile it all on defence.
Do you think a team should have to score 3 times in most games to win a match though?
That's not the point.  An effective attack would have killed off Brighton long before we started getting nervous in the last 10.

Didn’t the effective attack get us into the lead after the defence gifted them a goal? I’m not saying it’s purely the defence but 2 goals at home should be enough to win games. It isn’t, which means we have to score 3. The pressure is clearly created by the defence, for me.

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Re: Aston Villa 2 Brighton 2 Post Match Thread.
« Reply #175 on: December 31, 2024, 12:21:31 PM »
Apparently, 11 of the 19 teams have scored against us with their first shot on target too.
Fuck my boots, that's awful if true.

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Re: Aston Villa 2 Brighton 2 Post Match Thread.
« Reply #176 on: December 31, 2024, 12:28:42 PM »
Apparently, 11 of the 19 teams have scored against us with their first shot on target too.
Fuck my boots, that's awful if true.

It’s pathetic is what it is

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Re: Aston Villa 2 Brighton 2 Post Match Thread.
« Reply #177 on: December 31, 2024, 12:38:42 PM »
Or the defence that can't defend a simple long ball put pressure on the attack, which still did their job by putting us 2-1 up with 10 to go. Your attack scoring twice at home to a side that hadn't won in 6 isn't the failure.

Quite - and it’s not just the “defence”, although that first goal was entirely Konsa, it’s the whole defensive system.

I wouldn't say it's entirely Konsa, given he's only there in the first place because Diego Carlos is nowhere to be seen.

He was stuck in concrete somewhere near the half way line. Carlos can't turn and is a liability in that high defensive line as a result.

But Konsa has to deal with it anyway. Appalling from him. Hopeful punt over his head and we concede seconds later. Nowhere near good enough.

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Re: Aston Villa 2 Brighton 2 Post Match Thread.
« Reply #178 on: December 31, 2024, 12:53:08 PM »
Last year we win that by a goal, maybe two and we all come away saying its a routine win we didn't have to go through the gears for. This year we seem to concede with a very high percentage of the chances we give up and a well organised but limited opposition leave with a point. Again.

We also seem to look great attacking until we get to where it counts in the final third, then we run into traffic and out of ideas.

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Re: Aston Villa 2 Brighton 2 Post Match Thread.
« Reply #179 on: December 31, 2024, 01:01:30 PM »
It’s not an either or

Defence is rubbish
Attack is profligate

Not entirely, but it’s not 50/50 either. Our defensive play (as a team) is very clearly our main issue. We could be more clinical in attack, but if the defensive side was functioning even remotely competently our attacking output would be fine.

 


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