Newcastle v Villa post match

[mrfuse]

Regarding VAR yesterday, I can only presume that they agreed with the red card. If the ref had given a yellow, they would possibly have asked the ref to look at it. It's nonsense if that's how it works.

It's this stupid ruling now that VAR will not interfere if they don't totally disagree. They have the advantage of a close up replay and could have said look how Duran's left foot buckles could this affect his right foot placement. But no as they choose to not get involved they don't use the very reason they are there.

[Ian.]

Let’s be honest if it were the other way round most of us would have been vociferously calling for a red, so not sure we can get too pious about the reaction.

Yes we probably would and we would have been wrong too. That's football fans for ya.

Most people I have seen today have disagreed with the decision. I was watching with a Wolves fan, he didn't think it was a red. Most people on Twitter seem to think it was not a red. The only place I keep seeing people say it's a red is on here?

[Martyn Smith]

Regarding VAR yesterday, I can only presume that they agreed with the red card. If the ref had given a yellow, they would possibly have asked the ref to look at it. It's nonsense if that's how it works.

It's this stupid ruling now that VAR will not interfere if they don't totally disagree. They have the advantage of a close up replay and could have said look how Duran's left foot buckles could this affect his right foot placement. But no as they choose to not get involved they don't use the very reason they are there.

I agree and I'm starting to question the point of VAR if they won't take just a little time over such a decision. At least, they could have asked Taylor to take a look at it on the screens

There would appear to be very strong grounds for appeal and I hope the club does so. And, if successful, that VAR gets its act together over this type of thing

[Sexual Ealing]

We should absolutely contest that red card. Let’s not be milksops about this.

Contest the obviously correct red card? I wouldn’t have thought it was worth our while.

Well you're wrong because we are contesting it,

I’ll be wrong if the appeal is upheld. I hope I am.

Are you sure about that? Because from this and the match thread you seemed to be very happy that Duran had fucked up and all the people that had suggested he may take over from Ollie were proven wrong.

I’m a bit surprised you’d think that, but fair enough. Did I even post on the match thread?

I was absolutely furious he’d fucked up, not happy in the slightest, and I don’t think it’s proven anything of the sort. I would have started Duran, I think we’re going to miss him massively over the next couple of weeks, I also think it’s likely he’ll take over from Watkins. I just think people that now want to wash their hands of Watkins are ridiculous.

You did post on the match thread. In the style of Watkins’s mum, as usual!

[The Edge]

Let’s be honest if it were the other way round most of us would have been vociferously calling for a red, so not sure we can get too pious about the reaction.

Yes we probably would and we would have been wrong too. That's football fans for ya.

Most people I have seen today have disagreed with the decision. I was watching with a Wolves fan, he didn't think it was a red. Most people on Twitter seem to think it was not a red. The only place I keep seeing people say it's a red is on here?

And they will die on that hill rather than change their opinion.

[Olneythelonely]

You did post on the match thread. In the style of Watkins’s mum, as usual!

Don’t remember posting but that does sound like me.

[Demitri_C]

Dermot thinks appeal will be rejected. He also feels it was a red

[john2710]

It wasn't a red & at best Taylor guessed the decision, was influenced by the Newcastle players & crowd. But I wouldn't be surprised if any appeal is rejected. They make it up as they go along.

[Gareth]

Dermot thinks appeal will be rejected. He also feels it was a red

Can’t quite believe Sky still pay him for his ‘opinion’ that is always clearly briefed directly from PGMOL…he is one of the chief arse coverers.  But whilst he is clearly wrong on it being a red he is probably right that it won’t be rescinded.

[Hillbilly]

Let’s be honest if it were the other way round most of us would have been vociferously calling for a red, so not sure we can get too pious about the reaction.

I’m in this camp. Same with the players, their keeper sprinted out and was on the scene making a fuss, we all think he’s a wanker but there’s a lot of people on here who think our players are too timid and accept all decisions.

It’s a fine line but I’d say we’re a very quiet team, I suppose it shows discipline and reflects UE’s personality and the way he wants to be but it does feel as though we get walked over quite a bit. Plus everyone likes a few shithouses in their team, players that other fans love to hate. We’ve only got Big Emi and he’s calmed down recently.

That’s all very well but if Emi did the same the ref would probably send him off too.

[nick harper]

Dermot thinks appeal will be rejected. He also feels it was a red

Well it doesn’t fit with the criteria he always falls back on.

Was there force in the challenge? No. Did he endanger the opponent? No. Was the movement intentional? Only Duran knows that, but there is easily enough to give him the benefit of the doubt given he could easily have ruptured ligaments in his left ankle by the way he initially landed.

Not dissimilar to Fernandes having his card rescinded v Spurs where replays showed he’d slipped on his standing leg.

[The Edge]

Dermot thinks appeal will be rejected. He also feels it was a red

Can’t quite believe Sky still pay him for his ‘opinion’ that is always clearly briefed directly from PGMOL…he is one of the chief arse coverers.  But whilst he is clearly wrong on it being a red he is probably right that it won’t be rescinded.

In live play on Sky they looked at it and the woman on there (think her name is Karen) said: it should not have been a red. At worse it was accidental not dangerous and it would be impossible to tell if Duran had any intent to cause injury which is the criteria for a straight red. Spot on imo. Gallagher having seen the exact same footage was totally non committal. Obviously he didn't want to make the ref or PMGOL look bad so he was waiting for instructions. He's paid good money to give his honest opinion and he didn't. He's clearly there to cover the arses of his mates. Sky should terminate his contract because he failed to fulfill his duty.

[Matt C]

I thought we were well in the game at 1-0, not much to choose between the two sides and few clear cut chances either end but the sending off changed the tide completely and they used the advantage well, constantly having the extra man in midfield.

More apparent in away games but we do seem to have these repeated stints of being too passive for periods. I don’t understand if it’s mental fatigue, a collective brainfart or what but it is increasingly a fixture in our performances.

[Sexual Ealing]

Dermot thinks appeal will be rejected. He also feels it was a red

Can’t quite believe Sky still pay him for his ‘opinion’ that is always clearly briefed directly from PGMOL…he is one of the chief arse coverers.  But whilst he is clearly wrong on it being a red he is probably right that it won’t be rescinded.

Sky should terminate his contract because he failed to fulfill his duty.

Hahahaha! I’m not sure his family deserves a clean water supply after what he’s done.

[kippaxvilla2]

Can people stop saying it was a definite red.  Knowing the panel they’ll check this site to come to a decision.