Newcastle v Villa post match

[Olneythelonely]

2 steps forward 4 back. We gone backwards this season in the league.

Scoring less and conceding  more. The summer transfer business has been utterly poor. Monchi has a lot to answer for.

These are the moments when people talk about you being a bit “knee-jerk, pissy pants”. In case you were wondering.

[Gareth]

Poor performance but that disgraceful red card killed the game as any contest.  For the VAR to not send Taylor to the screen to review was negligent.  All he had to do was ask him to go review as Durans left foot was slipping so unless he’s the Karate Kid there was no way he could have intended to stamp on Schar.  VAR is pointless if they don’t use it.

PGMOL & PL ‘cover our own arses’ club will no doubt reject the appeal.

Having given the mitigation there is no excuse for our lack of intensity and the poor distribution out from the back was pretty pathetic.

[kippaxvilla2]

Buy a right back and a centre half next month and I think we will have a good second half of the season.

[KRS]

I don’t think Duran gave the ref any other choice but to send him off. He had plenty of time to plant his feet elsewhere and avoid stepping on or over their player. There is no way that gets turned over on appeal and he clearly didn’t make any clear attempt to avoid stepping on him.

[Nunkin1965]

I’m not sure we lose that game with eleven men.  We had started asking the questions.  They should’ve let Duran take the free kick he might not have been in such a bad mood then.

Exactly.
He wasn't happy that he couldn't take it.
Think he lost his head but he'll learn from it.

[olaftab]

Buy a right back and a centre half next month and I think we will have a good second half of the season.

That is unlikely. Not the better second half but excellent player acquisition that will immediately fix our problem.

[Beard82]

I think the red was harsh.  The other player raised his feet when he fail and they were pretty high and ended up studding him - there is an element of 6 of one and half a dozen of the others.  The reactions of the fans and there players triggered a poor ref.  I think unai coming out in support of him tips me in favour of it wasn’t deliberate.

I do think we have to get that level of indigidantness into our game.  The Joelation one could easily be a red and we need to be making the referee think more. 

It’s a crap part of the game but we do need to do it.  They bullied us today and we let them. 

We also need mings in our starting line up for away games - and articulately physical ones like that. 

[Aldridge Villa]

That elusive away win against a team of pedigree still not witnessed. I’d settle now for top 8.

[Sexual Ealing]

I think the red was harsh.  The other player raised his feet when he fail and they were pretty high and ended up studding him - there is an element of 6 of one and half a dozen of the others.  The reactions of the fans and there players triggered a poor ref.  I think unai coming out in support of him tips me in favour of it wasn’t deliberate.

I do think we have to get that level of indigidantness into our game.  The Joelation one could easily be a red and we need to be making the referee think more. 

It’s a crap part of the game but we do need to do it.  They bullied us today and we let them. 

We also need mings in our starting line up for away games - and articulately [\b]physical ones like that. 

Well said!

[Sexual Ealing]

Well I fucked that up.

[The Edge]

Buy a right back and a centre half next month and I think we will have a good second half of the season.

We really need to address our lack of quality wide players. Newcastle today plugged the midfield and just didn't allow the likes of Rogers to turn and run at them. It became increasingly obvious that we needed a wide outlet but with only the unpredictable Bailey to call on Emery was relying on like for like changes to shake it up.

[RichardBatchelor]

Poor performance but that disgraceful red card killed the game as any contest.  For the VAR to not send Taylor to the screen to review was negligent.  All he had to do was ask him to go review as Durans left foot was slipping so unless he’s the Karate Kid there was no way he could have intended to stamp on Schar.  VAR is pointless if they don’t use it.

PGMOL & PL ‘cover our own arses’ club will no doubt reject the appeal.

Having given the mitigation there is no excuse for our lack of intensity and the poor distribution out from the back was pretty pathetic.

This. So obviously not malicious or intentional.

[Percy McCarthy]

I’m annoyed, but not as annoyed as I thought. Possibly as I expected it, but also if you concede in the first 2 mins and have a man sent-off around 30 mins the likelihood of getting anything is incredibly small, so I wouldn’t read that much into the performance. Big game against Brighton now - 6 points from the 3 games over Christmas would be pretty good, but 4 or less isn’t great.

My thoughts too.

[Beard82]

Buy a right back and a centre half next month and I think we will have a good second half of the season.

We really need to address our lack of quality wide players. Newcastle today plugged the midfield and just didn't allow the likes of Rogers to turn and run at them. It became increasingly obvious that we needed a wide outlet but with only the unpredictable Bailey to call on Emery was relying on like for like changes to shake it up.

I think this is true it wasn’t the right game for Yuri to start - having McGinn as a ten and then a Ramsay or in form Bailey would be a good mix.  Cash just doesn’t have the quality we need to rash.  A good option to have but that wasn’t the right game for him.

I think unai got that one wrong today.  That was the wrong lineup against these thugs

[FatSam]

As I said on the match thread, Duran’s left foot slipped before he planted his right on Schar’s back. They are both tangling for the ball. I don’t see how that is clear enough to be a red, I appreciate that dangerous play can include when a player is out of control, but his foot slipped because they were both contesting the ball, it was the interaction of two players, rather than one being reckless. And for that the ref makes it an uneven contest less than a third of the way through.