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Offline Paul.S

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Re: Newcastle vs Aston Villa Match Thread
« Reply #210 on: December 26, 2024, 03:59:12 PM »
I’ve absolutely no problem with Duran being angry at being sent off, none at all. He’s 21 years old and plays with his heart on his sleeve and he’ll soon learn the standard of refereeing in this country is at a very low ebb.
No consistency, no understanding of the game and the application of the laws change from game to game.

Offline villa for life

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Re: Newcastle vs Aston Villa Match Thread
« Reply #211 on: December 26, 2024, 03:59:18 PM »
If we were 1 up, and they were down to ten men, I’d still be a nervous wreck. Let’s turn the tables for a change

Offline Demitri_C

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Re: Newcastle vs Aston Villa Match Thread
« Reply #212 on: December 26, 2024, 03:59:31 PM »
That Red isn’t even debatable. He can be excused the first foot on the defenders thigh, but not the second attempt to climb over him. You can tell by the reaction of both sets of players and our gaffer.

Yeah now watching the replay a few times. Its the second one for me. I think duran can move his boot there he has enough time  to do turn it to the side so thw studs dont go on the back. If there was a attempt to move the foot on the second one he may have got away with a yellow

Offline Villatillidie25

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Re: Newcastle vs Aston Villa Match Thread
« Reply #213 on: December 26, 2024, 03:59:48 PM »
That Red isn’t even debatable. He can be excused the first foot on the defenders thigh, but not the second attempt to climb over him. You can tell by the reaction of both sets of players and our gaffer.

We agree. It’s not debatable. It isn’t. His left foot buckles and slips. He has nowhere to put his right foot and there is no intent. You can tell by Durans reaction which is instantly to see if Schaar is ok. If he’d done it out of anger he wouldn’t have done that so quickly as he would have still been in the heat of the moment.

Offline frank black

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Re: Newcastle vs Aston Villa Match Thread
« Reply #214 on: December 26, 2024, 03:59:55 PM »
I think we’ll play well second half. We’ve been in this game, albeit not creating much.

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Re: Newcastle vs Aston Villa Match Thread
« Reply #215 on: December 26, 2024, 04:00:07 PM »
We where the better team before the red card - that is the takeaway. Duran let us down, let s hope he come back stronger. Watkins to come on and get his usual three clear cut chances and score in all three of them - in an alternative way of happenings that is.

Offline geolex

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Re: Newcastle vs Aston Villa Match Thread
« Reply #216 on: December 26, 2024, 04:00:18 PM »
So he's been sent off for moving his foot to somewhere "near" the player's head according to Clattenburg. Which shows intent apparently.

I'd have said it showed intent to NOT kick hi in the head.

This is a fucking joke.

And yet contact was near his arse... 

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Re: Newcastle vs Aston Villa Match Thread
« Reply #217 on: December 26, 2024, 04:00:34 PM »
Rewatching if you see it’s a tangle and he gets a boot in the waist which I think then makes him twist his foot in I think he meant it.  Looked worse than I think it was and there players react - ares don’t - we need to get in the refs faces.  Like when joelotion hit in the face we should be round the red like Roger’s had just had his head taken off.

It’s shit but it works.

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Re: Newcastle vs Aston Villa Match Thread
« Reply #218 on: December 26, 2024, 04:00:44 PM »
I don't think it's a red. What's he supposed to do, levitate over Schar till he's a safe distance away?

Hmm, he made sure he got contact on him. Granted it was his arse. Don't think he can have any complaints. Duran was playing well too up then.

Mountain to climb obviously now but it's a game with plenty of needle so chance of ref evening it up. Joelinton a little bit lucky and Trippier is on a yellow.

Need Watkins on anyway for Tielemans. Both centre backs are annoying me, get Mings on too for Torres.

Offline FatSam

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Re: Newcastle vs Aston Villa Match Thread
« Reply #219 on: December 26, 2024, 04:01:19 PM »
Watching the replay at half time, it looks as though Duran’s left foot slips before he plants his right foot on Schar’s back. I just don’t think that it is clear enough to be a red card. I know that dangerous play doesn’t have to be deliberate if you are out of control, but he’s only out of control because he’s in a tangle with another player.

Offline frank black

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Re: Newcastle vs Aston Villa Match Thread
« Reply #220 on: December 26, 2024, 04:01:26 PM »
That Red isn’t even debatable. He can be excused the first foot on the defenders thigh, but not the second attempt to climb over him. You can tell by the reaction of both sets of players and our gaffer.

We agree. It’s not debatable. It isn’t. His left foot buckles and slips. He has nowhere to put his right foot and there is no intent. You can tell by Durans reaction which is instantly to see if Schaar is ok. If he’d done it out of anger he wouldn’t have done that so quickly as he would have still been in the heat of the moment.

Duran just looked guilty

Offline Deano's Mullet

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Re: Newcastle vs Aston Villa Match Thread
« Reply #221 on: December 26, 2024, 04:01:27 PM »
I think its a red but ref is giving them everything. We need to score  quick because you know they'll be all over us second-half.

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Re: Newcastle vs Aston Villa Match Thread
« Reply #222 on: December 26, 2024, 04:02:02 PM »
The replay of that chance Martínez saved - looks like ‘Bruno’ fouls before laying it off. 

Also, the replay shows Schaar kicking out at Duran before Duran slips. 

I thought VAR was here to prevent this shit. 

I hate playing this bunch of fuckers. 

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Re: Newcastle vs Aston Villa Match Thread
« Reply #223 on: December 26, 2024, 04:02:03 PM »
Amazing how opinions differ!
How many games will he miss?
3 games and 20 subsequent starts probably

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Re: Newcastle vs Aston Villa Match Thread
« Reply #224 on: December 26, 2024, 04:02:21 PM »
Amazing how opinions differ!
How many games will he miss?

Brighton and Leicester at home and West Ham in the cup. Ollie will be loving this as Brighton is a team he has an incredible scoring record so it's all step up for him to confirm himself as our number one striker again very quickly.

 


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