Will we qualify for the CL?

[JUAN PABLO]

Forest to win please.  They need to be up for the last game.

[cdbearsfan]

How's that gone for them in their last four games? Maybe they'll play better if the pressure is off.

[TaxDodger]

I don’t know what I want. Why can’t I know what I want?

[Meanwood Villa]

Put it this way, I would rather the certainty of Europa League football than some speculative psychology about marginally increasing our chances of Champions League football.

[TaxDodger]

Ideal scenario - Forest draw and Man City lose to Bournemouth. Then Forest stand a slight chance of getting in the top 5 by beating Chelsea and so are massively up for it on the last day, and our possibility of getting top 5 with a draw at Old Trafford remains open.

[cdbearsfan]

Put it this way, I would rather the certainty of Europa League football than some speculative psychology about marginally increasing our chances of Champions League football.

Yep, and I'm not convinced a Forest win boosts our chances of top five anyway, bearing in mind it removes the possibility of qualifying with a draw.

[PaulWinch again]

Put it this way, I would rather the certainty of Europa League football than some speculative psychology about marginally increasing our chances of Champions League football.

It’s not speculative psychology really is it? If a team knows that by beating a team they’ll finish above them and end up in a higher value European competition it stands to reason they’ll go for it.

[Beard82]

Ok - can we all at least agree that Newcastle losing against Arsenal is better?

[Ads]

Forest beat West Ham
Arsenal beat Newcastle
Bournemouth beat Man City
Forest draw/beat Chelsea*
Everton beat Newcastle
Fulham draw/beat Man City

We beat Man United*

Those are the most favourable results, but only a Villa win plus a Forest win/draw against Chelsea is needed.

[OCD]

There's some fear about going to United because of our psychological scars of playing there but I saw something earlier that said United's form under Amorim is about the same as Jewell's as Derby manager when they set the record for lowest number of points.

[Chip Butty 111]

If Newcastle lose later on, all of this will be hanging in the balance until the final minutes next Sunday afternoon, it will be mental carnage..

[cdbearsfan]

There's some fear about going to United because of our psychological scars of playing there but I saw something earlier that said United's form under Amorim is about the same as Jewell's as Derby manager when they set the record for lowest number of points.

About the same as earlier in the season when we didn't beat them, then.

[Meanwood Villa]

Forest beat West Ham
Arsenal beat Newcastle
Bournemouth beat Man City
Forest draw/beat Chelsea*
Everton beat Newcastle
Fulham draw/beat Man City

We beat Man United*

Those are the most favourable results, but only a Villa win plus a Forest win/draw against Chelsea is needed.

First one is irrelevant to the rest

[Meanwood Villa]

Put it this way, I would rather the certainty of Europa League football than some speculative psychology about marginally increasing our chances of Champions League football.

It’s not speculative psychology really is it? If a team knows that by beating a team they’ll finish above them and end up in a higher value European competition it stands to reason they’ll go for it.

It is completely speculative, you're guessing that a game next week is going to be affected by something that happens today.

[PeterWithesShin]

ManU didn't go utterly shit until December. before then they'd only lost 4. Then the Amorim effect kicked in.