Will we qualify for the CL?

[Tom_Mc9?]

35:65.

[ez]

We can beat last season's points total but finish lower. No lower than 5th we hope.

[Brazilian Villain]

The big 'what if' for me is 'what if Liverpool hadn't been on the beach when they played Chelsea.

It won'r matter when they lose to Forest next week.

[Brazilian Villain]

Before last night, we were 8/5 to qualify for the CL (4/1 after the Citeh loss). We're now 5/6 on.

[Smithy]

Before last night, we were 8/5 to qualify for the CL (4/1 after the Citeh loss). We're now 5/6 on.

What are the other teams around us? Not into gambling, so have no idea.  I assume Forest are considered a long-shot, and all the other teams are considered a better chance than us?

[lovejoy]

I’ll struggle to forgive Liverpool for their performance at Stamford Bridge.

[lovejoy]

Before last night, we were 8/5 to qualify for the CL (4/1 after the Citeh loss). We're now 5/6 on.

What are the other teams around us? Not into gambling, so have no idea.  I assume Forest are considered a long-shot, and all the other teams are considered a better chance than us?

Newcastle 1/18 so 96%
Man City 1/12. 92%
Chelsea 4/9 55%
Us 11/10 47%
Forest 8/1 12%

I’d say that was about right. Which bookies are saying we are odds on ? Paddy power? Always pays to shop around.

[olaftab]

Forest have turned into circa 2009 Villa.

[Smithy]

Before last night, we were 8/5 to qualify for the CL (4/1 after the Citeh loss). We're now 5/6 on.

What are the other teams around us? Not into gambling, so have no idea.  I assume Forest are considered a long-shot, and all the other teams are considered a better chance than us?

Newcastle 1/18 so 96%
Man City 1/12. 92%
Chelsea 4/9 55%
Us 11/10 47%
Forest 8/1 12%

I’d say that was about right. Which bookies are saying we are odds on ? Paddy power? Always pays to shop around.

Yeah, that feels about right.  I would imagine Forest's odds will go up a bit, and ours and Chelsea down a bit, if they beat West Ham.  We really need them to get a draw, in an ideal world.  That would leave them needing to beat Chelsea on the last day to go above us and have Champions League still a possibility.

If they lose to West Ham, I fear they'll be a walkover for Chelsea on the last day, knowing they can't move up or down regardless of the result.

If Chelsea get to play Liverpool AND Forest in the last couple of games, while both of those teams are on the beach, they would be extremely lucky.

[Smithy]

Points gained over the teams around us in the last 10 games:

Forest - 9 points
Arsenal - 9 points
Chelsea - 4 points
Man City - 3 points
Newcastle - 2 points
Liverpool - 2 points

If this had been the first 10 games of the season, rather than the last, we'd be 2 points clear in mid November and dreaming of a title challenge.  Whatever happens next weekend, we HAVE to maintain this momentum into next season.  If we can, the Champions League place will take care of itself and we might even find ourselves dreaming a bit higher...

[Richard]

Before last night, we were 8/5 to qualify for the CL (4/1 after the Citeh loss). We're now 5/6 on.

What are the other teams around us? Not into gambling, so have no idea.  I assume Forest are considered a long-shot, and all the other teams are considered a better chance than us?

Newcastle 1/18 so 96%
Man City 1/12. 92%
Chelsea 4/9 55%
Us 11/10 47%
Forest 8/1 12%

I’d say that was about right. Which bookies are saying we are odds on ? Paddy power? Always pays to shop around.

Yeah, that feels about right.  I would imagine Forest's odds will go up a bit, and ours and Chelsea down a bit, if they beat West Ham.  We really need them to get a draw, in an ideal world.  That would leave them needing to beat Chelsea on the last day to go above us and have Champions League still a possibility.

If they lose to West Ham, I fear they'll be a walkover for Chelsea on the last day, knowing they can't move up or down regardless of the result.

If Chelsea get to play Liverpool AND Forest in the last couple of games, while both of those teams are on the beach, they would be extremely lucky.

No luckier than us getting Spurs and Man U to be fair! We will finish where we deserve to finish, whatever happens it's been another good season and while we have Unai we will always be a top 6 side IMO.

[Brazilian Villain]

Before last night, we were 8/5 to qualify for the CL (4/1 after the Citeh loss). We're now 5/6 on.

What are the other teams around us? Not into gambling, so have no idea.  I assume Forest are considered a long-shot, and all the other teams are considered a better chance than us?

The other teams (apart from Forest) are shorter odds but 5/6 probably indicates that we've roughly a 50:50 chance.

Bear in mind that last year some people were absolutely certain that Spurs would pip us to 4th (when they were 16/1).

[lovejoy]

If the money wasn’t so significantly different I could accept Europa as a fair reflection on the season.
If I hadn’t seen such riches I could live with being poor.

[Stinkin_Thinkin]

europa and conf league are designed to knacker your squad so you can never dare to challenge domestically and join the big boys in the UCL. Chelsea have coped and will probably win the conf due to their massive squad but look at man utd and spurs whereabouts in the table, and west ham when they won it. Villa just about limped over the line last season. The only one worth entering is the champions league I'm sure emery knows it.

[RamboandBruno]

europa and conf league are designed to knacker your squad so you can never dare to challenge domestically and join the big boys in the UCL. Chelsea have coped and will probably win the conf due to their massive squad but look at man utd and spurs whereabouts in the table, and west ham when they won it. Villa just about limped over the line last season. The only one worth entering is the champions league I'm sure emery knows it.

Im sure he was thinking that when he was winning the Europa League, for the fourth time was it?