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Author Topic: Will we qualify for the CL?  (Read 170282 times)

Offline cdbearsfan

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Re: Will we qualify for the CL?
« Reply #2055 on: May 12, 2025, 11:52:12 AM »
I put neither/nor. And others were confused. It was badly written.

I'm still confused tbh. Newcastle need to beat either Arse or Everton to guarantee we can't catch them, barring some bizarre goal difference swing.They don't need to beat both of them. But two draws we would be above them if we win out. That's right isnt it ?

Chelsea just need to drop points against either Man U or Forest , and if we win out we are ahead of them too.

Man City need 4 points to stay above us if we win out.

Forest don't matter so long as we take care of our own business.

IF I've got all that in my head right , then I fancy us. Phew !

Yep, I think that's right.

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Re: Will we qualify for the CL?
« Reply #2056 on: May 12, 2025, 12:08:17 PM »
As per John Townley, we are CL if we win our last two games and one of the below happens...

▪️Chelsea don't beat both Man Utd and Forest
▪️Newcastle don't beat Arsenal and Everton
▪️Man City lose to either B'mouth or Fulham
▪️Arsenal take only one point from final three

One of those will happen, right?
I'll happily take any European football we can get - not going to start getting sniffy about "only" playing in the Conference League.  However, the Europa League place is in our hands now.  That's a big thing, I suspect being in that won't overly harm our ability to attract the players we want anyway as we'd most likely be one of the favourites to win it.

I'd think if we win both of our games, we'll probably be in the Champions League. There's got to be a decent chance of one of Chelsea, Newcastle, Man City, Arsenal, and us slipping up in the last 2 games.  We've just got to make sure it's not us. 

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Re: Will we qualify for the CL?
« Reply #2057 on: May 12, 2025, 12:14:55 PM »
As per John Townley, we are CL if we win our last two games and one of the below happens...

▪️Chelsea don't beat both Man Utd and Forest
▪️Newcastle don't beat Arsenal and Everton
▪️Man City lose to either B'mouth or Fulham
▪️Arsenal take only one point from final three

One of those will happen, right?
I'll happily take any European football we can get - not going to start getting sniffy about "only" playing in the Conference League.  However, the Europa League place is in our hands now.  That's a big thing, I suspect being in that won't overly harm our ability to attract the players we want anyway as we'd most likely be one of the favourites to win it.

I'd think if we win both of our games, we'll probably be in the Champions League. There's got to be a decent chance of one of Chelsea, Newcastle, Man City, Arsenal, and us slipping up in the last 2 games.  We've just got to make sure it's not us. 

Agreed - it's worth saying too that the Europa League would offer us 2 routes into the Champions League next season, rather than one. And we have the best Europa League manager of all time managing us. So could make for an incredibly fun season.

That Forest draw yesterday really makes it likely we can secure Europa even if things don't go our way for Champions League.

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Re: Will we qualify for the CL?
« Reply #2058 on: May 12, 2025, 12:20:41 PM »
I still think we will qualify for it. We must be the most in form team in the league now.

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Re: Will we qualify for the CL?
« Reply #2059 on: May 12, 2025, 12:27:32 PM »
I still think we will qualify for it. We must be the most in form team in the league now.

Depends on how long you consider "form" to go back. Over the last five games we're third, behind Man City and Brentford.

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Re: Will we qualify for the CL?
« Reply #2060 on: May 12, 2025, 12:37:11 PM »
Having a good chance of winning the Europa would, indeed, be fun but winning the league would be even more fun and I honestly believe this squad with a couple of additions is capable. Being in the Champions League is the only way that can happen.

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Re: Will we qualify for the CL?
« Reply #2061 on: May 12, 2025, 12:44:03 PM »
If we were defending in the first half of the season as we are now we would be comfortably positioned in the top 3. As it is we are only a few points back of that position despite having such a terrible GD for the vast majority of the season.

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Re: Will we qualify for the CL?
« Reply #2062 on: May 12, 2025, 12:45:15 PM »
Having a good chance of winning the Europa would, indeed, be fun but winning the league would be even more fun and I honestly believe this squad with a couple of additions is capable. Being in the Champions League is the only way that can happen.

This is correct. Also, Sunday games are shite.

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Re: Will we qualify for the CL?
« Reply #2063 on: May 12, 2025, 01:12:18 PM »
Opta essentially have us with a c90% chance of us being in either CL or EL next season.

They have us at 20% of finishing 7th. That would have to happen plus Palace beat Man City in the cup final for us to end up in the Conference League.

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Re: Will we qualify for the CL?
« Reply #2064 on: May 12, 2025, 01:19:30 PM »
So to conclude, finishing Top 5 is bigger than winning any cup but CL. It shouldn’t be that way but it is.

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Re: Will we qualify for the CL?
« Reply #2065 on: May 12, 2025, 01:24:31 PM »
I still think we will qualify for it. We must be the most in form team in the league now.

Depends on how long you consider "form" to go back. Over the last five games we're third, behind Man City and Brentford.

Yes, because they both have 4 wins and a draw, to our four wins and a loss.  Go back 6 games, 8 games, 10 games, we're top of the form table in all of them.   Our only blip in the last 8 league games is the last-minute loss to Man City.

If we can maintain our momentum on Friday, I think we'll do it.

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Re: Will we qualify for the CL?
« Reply #2066 on: May 12, 2025, 01:26:28 PM »
The parallels with the run to Europa Conference in 2023 are stark. We won 1-0 on the south coast with an Ollie goal then, ground out a 1-0 win against Fulham with a goal from a set piece and beat Spurs at home in mid May. What happened at Old Trafford though? Lost to a goal from Ratface.

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Re: Will we qualify for the CL?
« Reply #2067 on: May 12, 2025, 01:29:06 PM »
What happened at Old Trafford though? Lost to a goal from Ratface.

That was then, this is now.

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Re: Will we qualify for the CL?
« Reply #2068 on: May 12, 2025, 01:35:05 PM »
Getting into the Europa and immediately being one of the favourites to for it would be great but it's still consolation prize after getting the Champions League QF this year. We've had a taste of competing with the very best in Europe and looked at home, we should be aiming for that same level as often as possible.

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Re: Will we qualify for the CL?
« Reply #2069 on: May 12, 2025, 01:44:23 PM »
The parallels with the run to Europa Conference in 2023 are stark. We won 1-0 on the south coast with an Ollie goal then, ground out a 1-0 win against Fulham with a goal from a set piece and beat Spurs at home in mid May. What happened at Old Trafford though? Lost to a goal from Ratface.
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