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Re: Will we qualify for the CL?
« Reply #2025 on: May 12, 2025, 09:11:52 AM »
As per John Townley, we are CL if we win our last two games and one of the below happens...

▪️Chelsea don't beat both Man Utd and Forest
▪️Newcastle don't beat Arsenal and Everton
▪️Man City lose to either B'mouth or Fulham
▪️Arsenal take only one point from final three

One of those will happen, right?

If that was the case I'd fancy it a bit more. Sadly, Newcastle only have to beat Arsenal or Everton, not both.

Also, I'm assuming the list is slightly out of date. Arsenal only need one point to finish above us, having drawn at Liverpool earlier.

Might have been done before the Arse game, but Townley is correct with his wording that if Newcastle don't beat Arse AND Everton then we can finish above them. He actually got the Chelsea one wrong as that could be an OR.

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Re: Will we qualify for the CL?
« Reply #2026 on: May 12, 2025, 09:13:44 AM »
Thanks Leicester for yesterday.
I think it's between us and Chelsea for 5th now.
We have Forest covered.
We just need to win both our games (definitely possible on the evidence of yesterday) and hope Chelsea slip up at home to Man U or at Forest (certainly a possibility).
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Re: Will we qualify for the CL?
« Reply #2027 on: May 12, 2025, 09:15:05 AM »
With us being the opening game of the next set of fixtures, beating Tottenham would heap extra pressure on the other sides.

Chelsea vs Man Utd is on a the same time isn't it?

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Re: Will we qualify for the CL?
« Reply #2028 on: May 12, 2025, 09:16:02 AM »
With us being the opening game of the next set of fixtures, beating Tottenham would heap extra pressure on the other sides.

Chelsea vs Man Utd is on a the same time isn't it?

We start 30 mins beforehand.....

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Re: Will we qualify for the CL?
« Reply #2029 on: May 12, 2025, 09:16:25 AM »
We kick off 45 minutes earlier.

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Re: Will we qualify for the CL?
« Reply #2030 on: May 12, 2025, 09:17:42 AM »
As per John Townley, we are CL if we win our last two games and one of the below happens...

▪️Chelsea don't beat both Man Utd and Forest
▪️Newcastle don't beat Arsenal and Everton
▪️Man City lose to either B'mouth or Fulham
▪️Arsenal take only one point from final three

One of those will happen, right?

If that was the case I'd fancy it a bit more. Sadly, Newcastle only have to beat Arsenal or Everton, not both.

Also, I'm assuming the list is slightly out of date. Arsenal only need one point to finish above us, having drawn at Liverpool earlier.

Might have been done before the Arse game, but Townley is correct with his wording that if Newcastle don't beat Arse AND Everton then we can finish above them.

Only if we overturn a goal difference advantage of sixteen. If they win either, they'll be above us. We can forget about Newcastle.

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Re: Will we qualify for the CL?
« Reply #2031 on: May 12, 2025, 09:21:27 AM »
But isn't that why he is using the AND between the teams and not OR. Newcastle have to drop points against both.

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Re: Will we qualify for the CL?
« Reply #2032 on: May 12, 2025, 09:25:35 AM »
I'm kind of torn.  I want West Ham to beat Forest to give us a bit of a cushion in trying to guarantee a 6th place finish, but I suspect their final day performance against Chelsea will be MUCH stronger if they're still in with a mathematical chance of finishing ahead of Chelsea or us.  So they probably need to get something against West Ham, which would in turn lessen our chances of 6th place.

If you'd offered me the last two games against the 16th and 17th placed teams, who both have a cup final to worry about, I'd have snapped your hand off. It's just a shame it's those two teams that we don't have particularly good records against in recent times.

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Re: Will we qualify for the CL?
« Reply #2033 on: May 12, 2025, 09:28:55 AM »
But isn't that why he is using the AND between the teams and not OR. Newcastle have to drop points against both.

He probably could have used the word "neither" in there to avoid confusion. Anyway, we aren't catching Newcastle.

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Re: Will we qualify for the CL?
« Reply #2034 on: May 12, 2025, 09:32:05 AM »
But isn't that why he is using the AND between the teams and not OR. Newcastle have to drop points against both.

He probably could have used the word "neither" in there to avoid confusion. Anyway, we aren't catching Newcastle.

Wouldn't that be a weird double negative.
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Re: Will we qualify for the CL?
« Reply #2035 on: May 12, 2025, 09:34:30 AM »
So goal difference is worth a point then  :(

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Re: Will we qualify for the CL?
« Reply #2036 on: May 12, 2025, 09:35:15 AM »
But isn't that why he is using the AND between the teams and not OR. Newcastle have to drop points against both.

He probably could have used the word "neither" in there to avoid confusion. Anyway, we aren't catching Newcastle.

Wouldn't that be a weird double negative.
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Newcastle don't beat neither Arsenal and Everton

"Newcastle beat neither Arsenal nor Everton".

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Re: Will we qualify for the CL?
« Reply #2037 on: May 12, 2025, 09:43:52 AM »
So exactly the same as "Newcastle don't beat Arsenal and Everton" but with a different negative. Ok.

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Re: Will we qualify for the CL?
« Reply #2038 on: May 12, 2025, 09:49:31 AM »
I miss BE.

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Re: Will we qualify for the CL?
« Reply #2039 on: May 12, 2025, 10:03:32 AM »
Think Newcastle have won all 3 meetings with Arse this season and Declan Rice is out too. Don't think Arse have scored against Newcastle either.

 


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