Nottingham Forest vs Aston Villa post-match thread

[Bent Neilsens Screamer]

No idea why Buendia isn't getting time , got to be better than Cash in midfield

Trust me.
Buendia is not the answer to our problems

I think we’ve moved on from Buendia now, he never set the world alight when we were moving up the league and I’d see us trying to shift him on to a lower prem club, if he’s lucky, or more likely a promotion challenging championship club.

[andyh]

Shit result. Annoying that when teams have a real go with pace and drive we struggle.

I thought we did ok and both teams nullified each other. They went for it after going behind and we were left exposed too many times.

It's so frustrating.

That’s a point I have made many times.
We never get up a head of stream and press with pace, even in the very latter stages of a game we are losing.

The tactics of Torres, Konsa and Carlos tippy tapping it around sidewards and backwards already feels like a style that was one effective but has had its time.

Unfortunately, it seems to be the only way we know how to play, regardless of the opponent, the score or the situation

[PaulTheVillan]

Wank. Ruined my day. Fuck off Villa.

[eamonn]

I thought he brought Onana on for his height. Not that it worked but I could see the logic.

Onana's cut his hair and like Sansom and Morgan Sanson, it's shorn him of his power.

[SaddVillan]

Definitely deserved a draw.

Should have had a stonewall pen in the 1st half.

Their "equaliser" was VAR'd as offside.

Their 2nd equaliser- back post header was fair and square.

In the build up to their "winner" Cash got well and truly body checked/clattered. Deffo a foul, but the ref seemed disinclined to blow his whistle for much of the game.

We became visibly tired in the last 20 mins. Unable to retain control of the ball/play out from the back/retain possession. The crowd got behind them and they just wore us down.

Fatigue
Naivety
Unprofessionalism
Lack of football nous
Poor game management

Call it what you will, but these are the areas (other than individual player/skills upgrades) that collectively we need to improve on if we really want to get to be a proper top 4 side.

Sermon over.

[The Edge]

Weird comment.

Weird because I’m saying something that is in fact true.  Emery is not Dynamo.  He got a tune out of players that are average premier league players and continues to do his very best but it’s not working any more because allegedly said players cannot allow their minds to be blown by lengthy tactical team talks.

So you want Emery out? Fuck me what an over reaction.

Read what I have said and tell me how you deduce I want the manager out.  I want the manager to be able to compete with the Nottingham Forests of this world who go out and spunk £43m n Gibbs-White whilst we are paying £5m for Ross Barkley for example.

Ok so what so you mean by "said players cannot allow their minds to be blown by lengthy tactical team talks" That seems to me like your saying Unai's methods are no longer working. Comments like that usually mean you want the manager out.

[PaulWinch again]

To call out the owners for putting the right people in place to identify players who had massive potential for growth is just weird, hence the original reaction.

[Bent Neilsens Screamer]

Shit result. Annoying that when teams have a real go with pace and drive we struggle.

I thought we did ok and both teams nullified each other. They went for it after going behind and we were left exposed too many times.

It's so frustrating.

That’s a point I have made many times.
We never get up a head of stream and press with pace, even in the very latter stages of a game we are losing.

The tactics of Torres, Konsa and Carlos tippy tapping it around sidewards and backwards already feels like a style that was one effective but has had its time.

Unfortunately, it seems to be the only way we know how to play, regardless of the opponent, the score or the situation

I’ve often thought this when we play at home. The way we play doesn’t really allow the crowd to roar them on as it’s a slow and controlled way of playing. More often than not we don’t have prolonged periods of pressure, that’s the way it sometimes appears to me anyway.

[VillaTim]

Thought we controlled the game well after our goal, no fancy football and stupid passing, until we went to pot truthfully expecting Watkins to cause forest a few problems but didn't really notice it

"Controlled the game well after our goal" ??
Have you been drinking

No and do me a favour please don't reply to my comments ,(comment edited for what I really meant to say)

In the nicest possible way , don't post utter rubbish then .
We did not control the game after we scored . It was the polar opposite .

[VillaTim]

No idea why Buendia isn't getting time , got to be better than Cash in midfield

Trust me.
Buendia is not the answer to our problems

He might not be the answer but he's a better midfielder than Matty Cash .

[kippaxvilla2]

Weird comment.

Weird because I’m saying something that is in fact true.  Emery is not Dynamo.  He got a tune out of players that are average premier league players and continues to do his very best but it’s not working any more because allegedly said players cannot allow their minds to be blown by lengthy tactical team talks.

So you want Emery out? Fuck me what an over reaction.

Read what I have said and tell me how you deduce I want the manager out.  I want the manager to be able to compete with the Nottingham Forests of this world who go out and spunk £43m n Gibbs-White whilst we are paying £5m for Ross Barkley for example.

Ok so what so you mean by "said players cannot allow their minds to be blown by lengthy tactical team talks" That seems to me like your saying Unai's methods are no longer working. Comments like that usually mean you want the manager out.

Fcuking hell.  I mean they’re not good enough to consistently retain detailed instructions because I think we need upgrades.  By the sounds of it you’d struggle with his detailed team talks.

[kippaxvilla2]

Whilst we are talking about it how do Forest spend as much as they have with less revenue and crowds than us and get away with it?

[The Edge]

Weird comment.

Weird because I’m saying something that is in fact true.  Emery is not Dynamo.  He got a tune out of players that are average premier league players and continues to do his very best but it’s not working any more because allegedly said players cannot allow their minds to be blown by lengthy tactical team talks.

So you want Emery out? Fuck me what an over reaction.

Read what I have said and tell me how you deduce I want the manager out.  I want the manager to be able to compete with the Nottingham Forests of this world who go out and spunk £43m n Gibbs-White whilst we are paying £5m for Ross Barkley for example.

Ok so what so you mean by "said players cannot allow their minds to be blown by lengthy tactical team talks" That seems to me like your saying Unai's methods are no longer working. Comments like that usually mean you want the manager out.

Fcuking hell.  I mean they’re not good enough to consistently retain detailed instructions because I think we need upgrades.  By the sounds of it you’d struggle with his detailed team talks.

Well it's not very fucking clear what you meant mate. What the fuck does "they cannot allow their minds to be blown" actually mean?

[Bent Neilsens Screamer]

Whilst we are talking about it how do Forest spend as much as they have with less revenue and crowds than us and get away with it?

Didn’t they get a points deduction for it?

[ROBBO]

The mind numbing slow play at the back does my head in, from Emi onwards, most puzzlingt was how with just a couple of minutes injury time left we were still playing pass the ball in midfield.