Chelsea 3 Aston Villa 0 Post Match Thread.

[VillaTim]

The other thing i'd add is that McGinn isn't a captain. Once Mings is back i'd get the armband back onto him ASAP .

[HolteL4]

Duran is a brilliant instinctive goal scorer, he’s not actually that great in terms of his all round game at times. Not saying he won’t get there, but the idea that Watkins isn’t up to much is just wrong. Just look at last season - in the league he was involved in over 30 goals in the league.

It’s this season that is the problem.

He’s still got 6 goals and 2 assists in 13 league games it’s hardly disastrous.

6 from 13 starts, compare that to Durans 4 from 12 appearances, of which i think only 2 have been starts (both of which he scored in) . Watkins starts every game but is only 2 ahead of Duran not great is it. If be fuming if I was Duran, put my in Durans position and I'd have never signed that new contract

[ChicagoLion]

Duran is a brilliant instinctive goal scorer, he’s not actually that great in terms of his all round game at times. Not saying he won’t get there, but the idea that Watkins isn’t up to much is just wrong. Just look at last season - in the league he was involved in over 30 goals in the league.

It’s this season that is the problem.

He’s still got 6 goals and 2 assists in 13 league games it’s hardly disastrous.

Not disastrous I agree, but his misses have been expensive this season.

[PaulWinch again]

Duran is a brilliant instinctive goal scorer, he’s not actually that great in terms of his all round game at times. Not saying he won’t get there, but the idea that Watkins isn’t up to much is just wrong. Just look at last season - in the league he was involved in over 30 goals in the league.

It’s this season that is the problem.

He’s still got 6 goals and 2 assists in 13 league games it’s hardly disastrous.

6 from 13 starts, compare that to Durans 4 from 12 appearances, of which i think only 2 have been starts (both of which he scored in) . Watkins starts every game but is only 2 ahead of Duran not great is it. If be fuming if I was Duran, put my in Durans position and I'd have never signed that new contract

But it’s not as straightforward as that. If you actually watch Duran when he starts he’s often quite disjointed in his play. Now admittedly it doesn’t look great at the moment because we’re struggling, but Ollie’s play as the lone front man brings a lot - he scores plenty of goals and assists a lot. Duran is young and is a great option, but the idea that he’s suddenly a better player than Ollie because he’s had a good streak of goals just isn’t accurate.

[Demitri_C]

The other thing i'd add is that McGinn isn't a captain. Once Mings is back i'd get the armband back onto him ASAP .

I agree. I think the captaincy never should have been taken off mings. Absolute joke by gerrard

[brontebilly]

The other thing i'd add is that McGinn isn't a captain. Once Mings is back i'd get the armband back onto him ASAP .

I agree. I think the captaincy never should have been taken off mings. Absolute joke by gerrard

We did qualify for CL football post Gerrard. Mings wasnt captain then either.

[brontebilly]

I think someone at the club should know by now how to play Watkins and Duran together even if they don't start together.

Many say we can't play them both together, but that can't be right. Both of them seem to go into a bit of a sulk mode when they are on the pitch together.

They can't play up top together.

[PaulWinch again]

The other thing i'd add is that McGinn isn't a captain. Once Mings is back i'd get the armband back onto him ASAP .

I agree. I think the captaincy never should have been taken off mings. Absolute joke by gerrard

We did qualify for CL football post Gerrard. Mings wasnt captain then either.

It’s a bit like that centre back who is completely incompetent and can’t defend who played in most games when we qualified for the Champions League - and has played I think in every game in that competition where we haven’t conceded a goal.

[HolteL4]

Duran is a brilliant instinctive goal scorer, he’s not actually that great in terms of his all round game at times. Not saying he won’t get there, but the idea that Watkins isn’t up to much is just wrong. Just look at last season - in the league he was involved in over 30 goals in the league.

It’s this season that is the problem.

He’s still got 6 goals and 2 assists in 13 league games it’s hardly disastrous.

6 from 13 starts, compare that to Durans 4 from 12 appearances, of which i think only 2 have been starts (both of which he scored in) . Watkins starts every game but is only 2 ahead of Duran not great is it. If be fuming if I was Duran, put my in Durans position and I'd have never signed that new contract

But it’s not as straightforward as that. If you actually watch Duran when he starts he’s often quite disjointed in his play. Now admittedly it doesn’t look great at the moment because we’re struggling, but Ollie’s play as the lone front man brings a lot - he scores plenty of goals and assists a lot. Duran is young and is a great option, but the idea that he’s suddenly a better player than Ollie because he’s had a good streak of goals just isn’t accurate.

Brings a lot of missed opportunities, today had Watkins scored the game would have been different. It's a stuck record, as I've said everyone said how good Watkins was vs Bayern but Neuer had it easy then Duran came on and the had the ball going over his head into the goal, Watkins would never have done what Duran did that game.

I'm not saying playing Duran is guaranteed to work but it's got to the point now that it's worth a try because persisting with Watkins is not working

[Risso]

It’s a bit like that centre back who is completely incompetent and can’t defend who played in most games when we qualified for the Champions League - and has played I think in every game in that competition where we haven’t conceded a goal.

Which competition is that?

[PaulWinch again]

It’s a bit like that centre back who is completely incompetent and can’t defend who played in most games when we qualified for the Champions League - and has played I think in every game in that competition where we haven’t conceded a goal.

Which competition is that?

Champions League, although maybe Pau hasn’t played in those games? I’m not being snarky I genuinely am not sure. I know he played against Bayern and Juve.

[Bent Neilsens Screamer]

It’s a bit like that centre back who is completely incompetent and can’t defend who played in most games when we qualified for the Champions League - and has played I think in every game in that competition where we haven’t conceded a goal.

Which competition is that?

Champions League, although maybe Pau hasn’t played in those games? I’m not being snarky I genuinely am not sure. I know he played against Bayern and Juve.

Pretty sure the only game he hasn’t played was against Brugge.

[wince]

Just a shit day at office. Come weds we will be fine

[Olneythelonely]

Watkins will start, he’s like Kane for England undroppable

I know we love a narrative, but he’s the 9th top scorer in the league and last season got 19 league goals and 19 odd assists. He’s hardly hopeless.

My narrative it’s very simple, and I don’t mind admitting it

We’ve got a better striker in Jhon Duran that we need to promote, he’s only going to improve and get better Where as Watkins isn’t
God forbid we sell Duran in the next window, if anyone goes it should be Watkins but I don’t think we’ll get the money anymore that ship has sailed

I said the same on another thread.

He’s the future simple as that

Watkins might not be here for much longer, but Duran is not going to be our number one choice whilst Emery is here. Even if you ignore that he’s nowhere near as good as Watkins, Emery would have to completely change his style of play and what he wants from a striker.

[VillaTim]

Watkins is what 29 , 30 now ?