Aston Villa vs Juventus post-match thread.

[Brazilian Villain]

Rogers looked every inch the £8m Championship hopeful tonight, couldn't decide if was tiredness or an allergic reaction to moving slightly to the left.

I can empathise, I suffer from the same thing.

[rob_bridge]

We were the better team overall. Against Juventus. Imagine even thinking that 3 years ago, 13 years ago or the last time we had a good team under O'Neill or a better one under Little or even more so under BFR.

We are here and we belong at this level. 10 pts from 5 games and still in with a chance of Top 8.

As for match Gatti was excellent held them together. Thuram is like Jordi Cruyff - couldn't lace his Old Man's Boots. Conceição certainly can his old man's mind.

Kamara was brilliant 2nd half and Barkley made 3 key interceptions on edge of box. Thought Bailey backed up Cash and SJM a lot. Proper shift.
Actually Carlos and Cash had good games - they come in for a lot of stick.

Morgan is one of my favourites but he looks like he could do with a rest for a couple of games.

Just left the complimentary flag at the foot of my 5 year old's bed. He can watch the highlights tomorrow.

[VillaBoy_23]

There is no doubt in my mind that the ref gave that goal. He blew the whistle once the ball had gone in and pointed towards the centre circle. There was then zero indication inside the ground that VAR had overturned it. Blatant cheating.

[coreyfeldman]

Other than one cross i have no idea how anyone is defending Bailey, he was awful tonight and doesn't have a defence like Rogers as in not having played this level before or playing in a new position, he was just shit and so so many moves broke down when the ball got to him. And taking the fre kick off digne after he'd hit the bar as well, shite mentality. I loved him last season but wtf is he right now?

[Monty]

Agree about Cash and Carlos being good, with the exception of the moment when Carlos did the most 'oh my god what the fuck am I doing here' centre-back-in-attack moment I've ever seen.

[rob_bridge]

Other than one cross i have no idea how anyone is defending Bailey, he was awful tonight and doesn't have a defence like Rogers as in not having played this level before or playing in a new position, he was just shit and so so many moves broke down when the ball got to him. And taking the fre kick off digne after he'd hit the bar as well, shite mentality. I loved him last season but wtf is he right now?

To be fair I think he has reverted to pre Emery to an extent this season but tonight I thought he did well.

Last season Diaby had the free role which McGinn had tonight and Bailey was less of a forward threat. Cash often gets caught out of position or dives in and  I thought Bailey backed him up and covered for McGinn. I think that was his job. It did negate his attacking threat not just due to him as overall we were slower in transition.

[Somniloquism]

There is no doubt in my mind that the ref gave that goal. He blew the whistle once the ball had gone in and pointed towards the centre circle. There was then zero indication inside the ground that VAR had overturned it. Blatant cheating.

Although a freekick given against us involves blowing the whistle after the goal happens (for VAR) and pointing to the other end of the pitch which also happens to be in line with the centre circle. But watch the split second after the challenge is made, the ref is already lifting his hand to his mouth before the ball goes in. And then doesn't move towards the centre circle which most refs do on goal signals.

[rob_bridge]

Agree about Cash and Carlos being good, with the exception of the moment when Carlos did the most 'oh my god what the fuck am I doing here' centre-back-in-attack moment I've ever seen.

Ha. Good point.

[Smirker]

There are too many to send individually from mobile so thanks to everyone who sorted me out via DM when I asked for a link.

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[RamboandBruno]

Other than one cross i have no idea how anyone is defending Bailey, he was awful tonight and doesn't have a defence like Rogers as in not having played this level before or playing in a new position, he was just shit and so so many moves broke down when the ball got to him. And taking the fre kick off digne after he'd hit the bar as well, shite mentality. I loved him last season but wtf is he right now?

Naw

[pelty]

Surprised people on here being so generous. I thought we were beyond wank today with the exception of Emi and Kamara. No threat. Meandering around. Bailey was rubbish again. Rogers absolutely terrible. Tielemans bang average. Disgusting performance and Emery does not look like he has any answers. Looks like a mid-table kind of year if things keep going the way they have been.

[AV82EC]

Surprised people on here being so generous. I thought we were beyond wank today with the exception of Emi and Kamara. No threat. Meandering around. Bailey was rubbish again. Rogers absolutely terrible. Tielemans bang average. Disgusting performance and Emery does not look like he has any answers. Looks like a mid-table kind of year if things keep going the way they have been.

Jesus Ive read some nonsense on here but this just about reaches a new level.

[Richard]

Surprised people on here being so generous. I thought we were beyond wank today with the exception of Emi and Kamara. No threat. Meandering around. Bailey was rubbish again. Rogers absolutely terrible. Tielemans bang average. Disgusting performance and Emery does not look like he has any answers. Looks like a mid-table kind of year if things keep going the way they have been.

Disgusting? Really?

[KevinGage]

You can maybe get away with a mercurial forward getting it bang on one game in five or one game in eight. If the rest of the shop is right.

Can't really tolerate that from a 31 year old CB - which prob sounds harsh tonight as Carlos was solid- even allowing for the Forest Gump clueless surge second half.

But that solidity has been a rareness since he joined us.

He wasn't the issue tonight but he is an issue in general. Partic with the fee we paid and the wages he's on.

[HolteL4]

I'm guessing the ref gave the foul and VAR agreed, not clear at all watching on tv.

Good performance defensively. Kamara was excellent, makes a huge difference.

When the ball hit the net I was worried about whether he'd given a foul I looked immediately at the ref to see him pointing at the centre circle so went wild only then to see him move his arm to indicate a free kick.

It's cheating pure and simple Juventus have form for this and as far as I'm concerned they are up to their old tricks again.