Aston Villa 2 Crystal Palace 2. Post Match Thread.

[tomd2103]

I think its both the midfield and defence.

No protection from the midfield to help , and some pretty woeful defending as a whole. Oue best defender was cash who came on at half time

Giving the ball away so cheaply and so often is killing us as well.  Pretty much all our attacking players have been guilty of it over the last number of games.

[JUAN PABLO]

just watchingMOTD  ..   love that Cunha

[olaftab]

Missing the penalty was a defining moment with Palace scoring straight after it. Surely Rogers should have taken it as he does for the U21's. As till thought at 2-2 we would go on and win. The last two subs of Buendia and Bidace killed us with Rogers and Bailey  going off.

The last subs puzzled me as well. The team on field had pulled it back to 2-2 why not let them finish the job? The subs just interrupted any pressure we were building and gave Palace the break they needed.

[VillaTim]

Sort the shambles of a defence out and build from there.
Seriously, this isn't difficult to see the priority areas to be addressed.

[tomd2103]

Just watching the highlights on MOTD, there were so many poor bits of defending in Palace's goals and chances.  In some cases, it looked like the effort to get back and defend properly just wasn't there.

[ROBBO]

This slow walking the ball out of defence does my head in. From the keeper standing with the ball under his studs to defenders who pass between themselves with half a dozen back to you's. Need to get our mojo back.

[Matt C]

A decent team with too many players woefully out of form.

It is compounded by some structural issues though - I think that’s two clean sheets in something like 21 PL games - and until we sort that out, our fortunes will remain mixed. We do not defend well as a unit - there’s plenty of individual mistakes too of course - but we’re constantly and very easily exposed as a collective.

[ROBBO]

As West Ham proved it is difficult manage all the extra games when you play in Europe. Some of the players look very flat.

[PaulTheVillan]

“Double pivot”. Vomit.

[TelfordVilla]

Before we take a corner, the back 4 should be lined up on the half way line, as a back 4. I don't care if we score or not, directly from the corner, but we absolutely should not be conceding from it. (Especially when it is nil nil away at liverpool)

[Richard E]

Missing the penalty was a defining moment with Palace scoring straight after it. Surely Rogers should have taken it as he does for the U21's. As till thought at 2-2 we would go on and win. The last two subs of Buendia and Bidace killed us with Rogers and Bailey  going off.

The last subs puzzled me as well. The team on field had pulled it back to 2-2 why not let them finish the job? The subs just interrupted any pressure we were building and gave Palace the break they needed.

It almost seemed to be settling for a draw.

[RamboandBruno]

I thought we finally gained some momentum after the second goal, but bringing Rogers  and Bailey off for Beundia and in particular Bidace killed it. I guess Emery had one eye on Juventus on Wednesday and thats one of the differences this season, champions league.

Banging on constantly (Villa Tim) about the defence being shit, is really missing the point. The centre of midfield is all wrong at the moment and its far to easy to just drive through us. As others have said and Ive said previously, I think Onana and Kamara may be an answer to this.

Some positives in a bleak wet horrible day with a massively flat holte end. I thought as shit as Bailey was in the first 15 mins, after he hit the bar with that thunderfuck, he was much better and  there were green shoots snd signs last years Bailey is in there somewhere.

[Bobby Boy]

This slow walking the ball out of defence does my head in. From the keeper standing with the ball under his studs to defenders who pass between themselves with half a dozen back to you's. Need to get our mojo back.

Yeah, totally agree. This is clearly part of the coaching strategy though and I don’t understand it. Yes, keeping possession is a good thing but this possession is inert and passive and achieves very little. It was noticeable yesterday how little movement there was when our defenders had the ball.

It doesn’t scare the opposition that’s for sure. They’ll take that all day.

[N'ZMAV]

We're lacking real leaders on the pitch - might be worth bringing Mings in.

[RamboandBruno]

This slow walking the ball out of defence does my head in. From the keeper standing with the ball under his studs to defenders who pass between themselves with half a dozen back to you's. Need to get our mojo back.

Yeah, totally agree. This is clearly part of the coaching strategy though and I don’t understand it. Yes, keeping possession is a good thing but this possession is inert and passive and achieves very little. It was noticeable yesterday how little movement there was when our defenders had the ball.

It doesn’t scare the opposition that’s for sure. They’ll take that

Its how we’ve played since Emery arrived. Playing it iut like this from defence and drawing teams onto us isn't really the problem of late, its how the ball then gets transitioned out of midfield.