Aston Villa 2 Crystal Palace 2. Post Match Thread.

[markeeeebeeee2005]

On the Diaby debate. Is he better than Philogene? Undoubtedly. Therefore the squad is weaker in that area without him and with Philogene. We shouldn’t have taken Philogene back and I don’t really know why Diaby left. I assume he wanted to go for the cash.

[Meanwood Villa]

I think we wanted/needed the cash too

[Monty]

I just don't look at a team that can't stop conceding, especially after losing the ball too easily and not pressing enough on the transition, and think 'man, this team needs Moussa Diaby'.

[tomd2103]

Diaby is the last player we miss. Seriously, put him immediately in this team, tell me what changes?

Rogers is better.

 i think he would have scored more goals than rogers will this season.

He is also faster and far better at getting the ball forward quicker.  Rogers is veey good dont get me wrong. But its not in rogers spot its baileys. Rogers and diaby in same team on form is a dangerous team.

Baileys been generally rubbish this year diaby would be well ahead of him this season.

We are missing him and pretty badly. Him and luiz in my opinion

You just need to look at how many goals our midfielders have scored this season comapred to last

I'm guessing that the thinking was thar Rogers would be the 'number 10' this season with Buendia and others able to provide cover.  On the right we had Bailey and Philogene, so they might have concluded that Diaby was expendable.  Who knows, Diaby might have pushed for the move.

On paper that would have probably looked fine at the start of the season, problem is that most of the current options are either out of form or look like they don't really belong at the level sadly. 

[PaulWinch again]

I just don't look at a team that can't stop conceding, especially after losing the ball too easily and not pressing enough on the transition, and think 'man, this team needs Moussa Diaby'.

It’s not binary though - the main problem is our midfield is not doing its job, it’s as simple as that. But we lack options to change games as well, Diaby would bring that. He’s gone though, the problem is we haven’t adequately replaced him.

[Demitri_C]

Unpopular but i think id rather have cashed in on either youri JJ (that would have been massive profit) or duran. (But not for the 40m that was quoted in summer)

Durans not been great since he signed his new contract. The contract curse!

I was gutted when diabs left. Ii really rated him

This summer if JJs injury problems dont go away id consider selling for a massive profit this will keep us sweet for years. Also allow us to get better players than philiogene in

[Monty]

So...you'd rather have sold three better players?

[Monty]

I just don't look at a team that can't stop conceding, especially after losing the ball too easily and not pressing enough on the transition, and think 'man, this team needs Moussa Diaby'.

It’s not binary though - the main problem is our midfield is not doing its job, it’s as simple as that. But we lack options to change games as well, Diaby would bring that. He’s gone though, the problem is we haven’t adequately replaced him.

We'd have less need of changing games if we actually had a middle of the pitch!

[Demitri_C]

So...you'd rather have sold three better players?

No one of the three

Id have also been ok if we cashed in on cash

[Monty]

So...you'd rather have sold three better players?

No one of the three

So you agree that they're all better than Diaby?

[Demitri_C]

So...you'd rather have sold three better players?

No one of the three

So you agree that they're all better than Diaby?

Nope

Im saying id rather have kept diaby and sold one of those three instead.

I loved diaby. Watching his run and scaring the shit out of defenders was a real joy to watch.

[Monty]

They were usually a lot less scared when they saw what he did with it!

Sorry Dem, sure he was a better option than Philogene but he definitely underdelivered in my view. I really don't think his absence is much to be looked at here.

[tomd2103]

I just don't look at a team that can't stop conceding, especially after losing the ball too easily and not pressing enough on the transition, and think 'man, this team needs Moussa Diaby'.

Looking at it today, the set up off attacking corners is just asking for trouble really.  Our last defenders were almost on the edge of the opposition box, meaning the likes of McGinn who occupy those positions have a 70 yard foot race with players much quicker than them (I thought we looked slow all over the pitch today) if the opposition break. 

It's cost us again today and I can't believe it hadn't been rectified after happening a few times at Liverpool. 

[Demitri_C]

Diaby is the last player we miss. Seriously, put him immediately in this team, tell me what changes?

Rogers is better.

 i think he would have scored more goals than rogers will this season.

He is also faster and far better at getting the ball forward quicker.  Rogers is veey good dont get me wrong. But its not in rogers spot its baileys. Rogers and diaby in same team on form is a dangerous team.

Baileys been generally rubbish this year diaby would be well ahead of him this season.

We are missing him and pretty badly. Him and luiz in my opinion

You just need to look at how many goals our midfielders have scored this season comapred to last

I'm guessing that the thinking was thar Rogers would be the 'number 10' this season with Buendia and others able to provide cover.  On the right we had Bailey and Philogene, so they might have concluded that Diaby was expendable.  Who knows, Diaby might have pushed for the move.

On paper that would have probably looked fine at the start of the season, problem is that most of the current options are either out of form or look like they don't really belong at the level sadly.

Yeah i agree with that To. Buendia is literally offering nothing. I think he will be moved on in the summer as clearly we have moved on from him.now

Yeah we dont know what happened behind scenes with diaby but me speculating it was the club as the whole wages issue we had with CL. We had to get rid of a high earner. Im sure diabs wouldnt have minded anyway earning more in a shitter league though.

Just a  shame he hasnt been replaced.  I said this earlier but sarr cost 12m and man he would really add something to our team. Looks far better than bailey is at the moment . What a bargain for palace

[tomd2103]

They were usually a lot less scared when they saw what he did with it!

Sorry Dem, sure he was a better option than Philogene but he definitely underdelivered in my view. I really don't think his absence is much to be looked at here.

I'd agree with this.  He started brightly last season, but had a dip in form and wasn't really a regular starter in the 2nd half of the season.  After that experience, he probably thought he wouldn't turn the Saudi money down again.