Aston Villa 2 Crystal Palace 2. Post Match Thread.

[Rigadon]

It was a game we really should've won, and could've lost. Ollie Watkins really should've scored at least 1 more, we missed a penalty, hit the post/bar and had loads of menacing crosses that on another day would've yielded goals.  And then, we also let them waltz through a few times. 

The balance is off and I felt like we needed more aggression all over the pitch - it was all too nice.  Rogers, my favourite player of recent months, looks like he's playing within himself. That said, when he went off we barely had an attack (Buendia, nope, not anymore).  Bailey started awfully, but grew into the game (Jayden P, nope, not yet).

Another frustrating result.

[Monty]

Buendia did a couple of decent things. Philogene seems good at standing in the right place (not a knock, actually a hard skill to learn!), but I'm not sure he's actually contributed one dangerous attacking moment this season.

[Demitri_C]

It was a game we really should've won, and could've lost. Ollie Watkins really should've scored at least 1 more, we missed a penalty, hit the post/bar and had loads of menacing crosses that on another day would've yielded goals.  And then, we also let them waltz through a few times. 

The balance is off and I felt like we needed more aggression all over the pitch - it was all too nice.  Rogers, my favourite player of recent months, looks like he's playing within himself. That said, when he went off we barely had an attack (Buendia, nope, not anymore).  Bailey started awfully, but grew into the game (Jayden P, nope, not yet).

Another frustrating result.

What was up with ollie today? At some points he looked terrified to shoot ? I think it was second half he went clear through delayed and then the palace defender caught up and stopped him having a effort.

[Beard82]

I dont really get the whole rogers thing.  I'll admit I havent watched as many games as I would have liked in 2024 - but to me he looks a decent prospect but, to have him at the center of our system seems a big ask.

Thats not knocking him - I can see hes physical and talented but his decision making and executation seem off to me.  I have missed some of the games where people have been like "Rogers was amazing" tbf.

[Dr_Fegg]

Watched from the lower north today which gave me a different perspective and watching us be so sloooooooooow from the back did my head in. Why does Carlos amble forward a few yards, stop, have think, then pass it to cash. Why can’t we move the ball quicker 😤

[Rigadon]

I dont really get the whole rogers thing.  I'll admit I havent watched as many games as I would have liked in 2024 - but to me he looks a decent prospect but, to have him at the center of our system seems a big ask.

Thats not knocking him - I can see hes physical and talented but his decision making and executation seem off to me.  I have missed some of the games where people have been like "Rogers was amazing" tbf.

He had a run of games early in the season where I thought he was approaching being unplayable.  I guess he's like most other young players inasmuch as he's susceptible to a poor run of form.  I thought he was poor first half but got better rather than worse - we looked completely toothless after he went off.   

[Meanwood Villa]

It was a game we really should've won, and could've lost. Ollie Watkins really should've scored at least 1 more, we missed a penalty, hit the post/bar and had loads of menacing crosses that on another day would've yielded goals.  And then, we also let them waltz through a few times. 

The balance is off and I felt like we needed more aggression all over the pitch - it was all too nice.  Rogers, my favourite player of recent months, looks like he's playing within himself. That said, when he went off we barely had an attack (Buendia, nope, not anymore).  Bailey started awfully, but grew into the game (Jayden P, nope, not yet).

Another frustrating result.

What was up with ollie today? At some points he looked terrified to shoot ? I think it was second half he went clear through delayed and then the palace defender caught up and stopped him having a effort.

From Trinity Upper I couldn't tell how much that was Ollie's fault or good defending. My Dad was in Holte Lower and said Ollie should have buried it.

[PaulWinch again]

I dont really get the whole rogers thing.  I'll admit I havent watched as many games as I would have liked in 2024 - but to me he looks a decent prospect but, to have him at the center of our system seems a big ask.

Thats not knocking him - I can see hes physical and talented but his decision making and executation seem off to me.  I have missed some of the games where people have been like "Rogers was amazing" tbf.

Early in the season he was brilliant, he’s just dipped off in form. Not sure how much is him or something wider going on with the structure of the team. Far too many players are off form for it down to individuals.

[Rigadon]

Watched from the lower north today which gave me a different perspective and watching us be so sloooooooooow from the back did my head in. Why does Carlos amble forward a few yards, stop, have think, then pass it to cash. Why can’t we move the ball quicker 😤

Carlos is shite at playing the ball forwards. He's ponderous as a result.  He really does need replacing in January.

[Demitri_C]

It was a game we really should've won, and could've lost. Ollie Watkins really should've scored at least 1 more, we missed a penalty, hit the post/bar and had loads of menacing crosses that on another day would've yielded goals.  And then, we also let them waltz through a few times. 

The balance is off and I felt like we needed more aggression all over the pitch - it was all too nice.  Rogers, my favourite player of recent months, looks like he's playing within himself. That said, when he went off we barely had an attack (Buendia, nope, not anymore).  Bailey started awfully, but grew into the game (Jayden P, nope, not yet).

Another frustrating result.

What was up with ollie today? At some points he looked terrified to shoot ? I think it was second half he went clear through delayed and then the palace defender caught up and stopped him having a effort.

From Trinity Upper I couldn't tell how much that was Ollie's fault or good defending. My Dad was in Holte Lower and said Ollie should have buried it.

Yeah was more ollie tbh mate. A bit of hesitation from him today. Scored a excellent goal so showed he has the confidence.  But at  other parts of the game he looked really low on confidence

[levico]

I dont really get the whole rogers thing.  I'll admit I havent watched as many games as I would have liked in 2024 - but to me he looks a decent prospect but, to have him at the center of our system seems a big ask.

Thats not knocking him - I can see hes physical and talented but his decision making and executation seem off to me.  I have missed some of the games where people have been like "Rogers was amazing" tbf.

Agreed. On current form he would only be on Middelsboughs bench.

[Steve67]

I thought we were fortunate to get the penalty to be honest, but then lacked the ruthlessness we need by placing it at such a comfortable height for their keeper to save it.  Crap penalty, but at least we know who is taking them!  We always seem to underperform before and after a Euro game. 32 players came and went in the summer and yet we seem passive, lacking pace, creativity and cannot keep a clean sheet for love nor money. 

[VillaTim]

Just back from Aston, jesus if the weather was bad our performance was worse.
We are awful defensively and have become boring and turgid to watch .
Our defence is an absolute car crash and has been for well over a year now. The real worry is Emery isn't doing anything about it and it's getting worse by the week .
Palace are awful but they looked the better more organised team . The cracks are growing wider and wider .

[DB]

Just got back through the storm ridden motorway.
We are slow going fwd, only paler with real.pace is Bailey, he was awful 1st half, 2nd half better. Rogers was poor. McGinn was good as was Pau. Too many players out today and it showed. Barkley was ok but again, slow at key times.
Our defence really needs sorting, Palace looked like scoring overtime they ran at us.

[VillaTim]

Can't agree on Torres , he's a poor and weak defender , yes he can pass (sometimes) today he was an absolute liability .