Aston Villa 2 Crystal Palace 2. Post Match Thread.

[olaftab]

Two points at home to Bournemouth and palace doesnt scream like a team thats going to be getting top 6 this season.

Last season two points at home against Sheff United and Brentford. Did that not scream like a top 4 team?

[Meanwood Villa]

I thought we looked decent going forward for the most part and could easily have scored more.

Defensively we were all over the shop yet again.

That end of first half was such a sliding doors moment and so disastrous from our point of view it was almost comical. 2-1 to us at half time and we win it comfortably.

[Demitri_C]

Two points at home to Bournemouth and palace doesnt scream like a team thats going to be getting top 6 this season.

Last season two points at home against Sheff United and Brentford. Did that not scream like a top 4 team?

Yeah but compare the first half of the season to this season? Its no comparison

Its just papering the cracks. We have massive problems this season. One win in eight doesnt scream champions league contenders.

We are incapable of keeping clean sheets, unable to do the basics of defending and we are missing so many chances. Add the fact the squad looks weaker than last year too and teams like spurs, chelsea look better this year

I cant see us finishing top five unless we spend big in January which is unlikely

Obviously plenty of time to change but boy does it need to happen quick.

[LeonW]

As long as we keep being easy to score against, we'll struggle to get results.

The first goal is 1 pass to find space behind Barkely and another to feed their player through. The 2nd is a copy of the Liverpool goal and an awful one to concede.

You need to take chances. Palace are 18th, 1 win all season, they're dross and in the relegation zone for a reason. But if you make it easy for sides with gifts or predicatable patterns of play, you'll struggle to get a result. You cannot gift a penalty opportunity.

Lots of factors. Form is one. Bailey is not contributing anything at all. No goals, no assists, worse, little to no percentage ball as he refuses to cross with his right. He's very easy to funnel and check back to allow them into a better defensive shape.

Tielemans without the physical protection today looked off and his form has followed suit. Delayed the pass, not that there was much movement.

Rogers. He's still way off it. His first touch has abandoned him. That air shot early on perhaps symptomatic.

But then that's the other issue. The system is designed to go through him. We're so slow in feeding the ball or in transition in general of late, that he's easy to smother. If it's not going through him, we look clueless.

The last 6 minutes of injury time today, we created nothing. In fact we didn't even get in their box. We barely made Henderson do anything from open play. Atrocious performance, meanwhile they had a shot and a cross.

It's just not been good enough of late and the defence, which I'll save for last, doesn't get off. Carlos was due to be sold for a reason. He is nowhere near the quality we need. Konsa, obviously injured today, but needs to play at centre half. He is our best defender. I cannot fathom Bogarde beyond Cash not being fit- I can accept that.

No Emery side ever defends well, but this is going to cost us if it continues. We need, for me, a pivot of Onana and critically, Kamara. I think Rogers needs to go wide and Bailey needs to be out the side, with a replacement in January. That is  not Philogene, who has not contributed anything attack wise all season.

I'm not sure if I read it on here or heard it elsewhere, but somebody said the Villa never break a losing run with a win. I remembered that before the game and it definitely came to mind when the first went in.

We need better. Much better.

You saved me having to write a post. An awful performance against a really poor team. Anyone who thinks we don’t have problems is putting their heads in the sand.

[Beard82]

We need Kamara back. That's the issue.

Barkley is looking good.

Pissed off with that result but we're 3 points from 3rd and 4 from 2nd. No need to panic.

Are you new to this forum :-)?

[PaulWinch again]

Konsa, Mings, Torres, Digne

When Konsa’s back that should be the four for me

If we don’t stop teams just running through the midfield it doesn’t matter who’s back there. We are so bloody easy to play against.

[Nii Lamptey]

Powderpuff stuff through the middle. Defence is so lightweight.
Bailey gets ripped apart by the fans, but Rogers was by far the worst today, and has been bad for a fair few games now.
Ollie the only player that come out of today with any credit.

[LeonW]

Rodgers was garbage today and to be fair, has been did the past few games. Needs a spell out but unless a change shape I don’t think we have any other viable options

[Demitri_C]

Konsa, Mings, Torres, Digne

When Konsa’s back that should be the four for me

If we don’t stop teams just running through the midfield it doesn’t matter who’s back there. We are so bloody easy to play against.

I know onana was bought in to help with that but even with in there he hasnt really helped.

This is why i find it utterly bizarre why we loaned out enzo. He could have really helped us out right now

[Clampy]

Thought a draw was probably fair overall. Both defences were a bit naff. Like Drummond said, Barkley was very decent. A very good addition for nothing.

[PaulWinch again]

The chances/goals we’ve started giving away from corners are bordering on utter negligence now.

[Meanwood Villa]

The last set of subs killed our monentum. Rogers, who I agree was mostly terrible, had started coming into it. Bailey had been pretty decent second half. Buendia got in the way. Philogene offers nothing, as others have said.

[Beard82]

The last set of subs killed our monentum. Rogers, who I agree was mostly terrible, had started coming into it. Bailey had been pretty decent second half. Buendia got in the way. Philogene offers nothing, as others have said.

Agree neither of these are the answer to any question were likely to be asked.  Particularly not when looking to turn a game around

[PaulWinch again]

We’re definitely not being helped by Philogene and Buendia offering absolutely nothing at all.

[Demitri_C]

We’re definitely not being helped by Philogene and Buendia offering absolutely nothing at all.

Agree with that Paul. I think buendia needs to be moved on and jaden may have to if he doesnt improve in next 12 months