Aston Villa v Liverpool - Post-Match Thread

[AV82EC]

Watching football over the last 45 years and the media especially the BBC have a soft spot for Liverpool, ManU and Arsenal. 

But Liverpool is their real sweetheart. 
The bias is staggering. 
Alan Green.

Well it’s not that surprising really they are the three most successful clubs in English football. Who’d have thought the three most successful clubs get all the attention!

[eamonn]

Has Alan Green retired? Haven't heard him in ages, thankfully. He's the sporting equivalent of Eamonn Holmes - fat, gobby and insufferable.

[VillaTim]

the commentator was moaning in the first 10 mins how much time Martinez was taking over goal kicks and kept doing so , wanker

[Martyn Smith]

Just watched it this morning after La Bluenose made me accompany her to some half-arsed fireworks display in Epsom

Both the commentator and the pundit were dire. I swear if she mentioned Thursday night (we played *Wednesday*) one more time my boot was going through the screen...

[Martyn Smith]

If Salah's was a penalty the other year, Watkin's non-penalty ought to have been given too. As should the Torres one. The Kopites routinely get decisions, made easier by an absolute blundering ****** of a referee in Coote.

Although I’ve no doubt that Coote is blundering ****** of a referee I also believe he has an ingrained bias against Villa. The frequency with which he makes wrong decisions against us, match after match, has no other real explanation.

And yet VAR backed him both times.

It seems the shirt pull law is contextual, you're much likely to get the decision if it's not in a danger area.

[Martyn Smith]

Thought the commentary was excruciating. They described the first goal as "an amazing break by Liverpool" when all their player did was hoof the ball into an empty half of the pitch and some players chased after it. While I'm on it I watched the re-run several times and there's no contact from Bailey when Salah did what Salah does- he fell over. Bailey did put his arm on his shoulder though which made it look worse but Salah had already committed to the dive by then. I think the commentators wanted him sent off and given the cat'o'nine tails for his heinous assault on Saint Mo.

One that Mr Coote called correctly

Tbh the only decision I totally disagreed with of his was the shirt pull

[Martyn Smith]

Konsa has pretty well only been chosen this season when Cash has been injured, so whatever the stats do or don't say, Cash is still Unai's first choice when fit. Konsa was dreadful at right back yesterday, Carlos was awful at centre back, and one of his characteristic mistakes led directly to their second goal.

We need to be playing Ned or Lamarde there, at least until the transfer window. I'd rather a genuine, green right back than an experienced fake one. Konsa keeps drifting to the centre. Which is no surprise when that's his natural position

[kippaxvilla2]

I’ve reflected since yesterday after the crisis comment. 

I’ve lived through 1986-87.  A 1-5 at home to David Whites Man Citeh.  A 0-6 at home to Liverpool.  0-8, 0-3, 0-4 and Bradford in Lamberts era.  Then 2015-16z And then of course Gerrard.  And Garde.  And Eric Black.  So not really a crisis.

[AlexAlexCropley]

I’ve reflected since yesterday after the crisis comment. 

I’ve lived through 1986-87.  A 1-5 at home to David Whites Man Citeh.  A 0-6 at home to Liverpool.  0-8, 0-3, 0-4 and Bradford in Lamberts era.  Then 2015-16z And then of course Gerrard.  And Garde.  And Eric Black.  So not really a crisis.

You've just brought back a memory I thought I'd buried in that City match.He really ripped us apart that day/evening?

[astonvilla82]

Might be by age but there is some real over reactions on here.
‘Season over’ ‘Crisis’ ‘we were awful’
Calm the fuck down. Lost 4 on the spin ok - one of them we threw, one was a single brain fart, one was a 2nd half collapse, one was against the best team in the country and Europe away!
Were we watching the same match? A massive improvement on our play from previous matches overall.
Players intelligent and respectful enough to know they repeated the crap play of previous it’d been a massacre. We weren’t overrun despite pre match predictions and our luck wasn’t with us with the best performer going off, sitter missed and gifted breakaway goals. Not to mention the of-course biased ref.
Emery (right now) is prepping for the Palace game. I think we’ll be fine and bring in a couple of faces in Jan and improve that right hand side.

Disaster is when you spend billions and billions and you lose 4 games on the bounce (Manchester City)

[john2710]

VAR was never going to give the penalty & cancel out Sarah's goal. Image the reaction, they'd be talking about it in 30 years time. Above all clubs I dislike them more than any other.

We matched them except for the gifts & the finishing. We need to strengthen our attacking options. Rogers should not be a starter week in week out. He's young & inconsistent except there's almost never an end product.

[VillaTim]

I’ve reflected since yesterday after the crisis comment. 

I’ve lived through 1986-87.  A 1-5 at home to David Whites Man Citeh.  A 0-6 at home to Liverpool.  0-8, 0-3, 0-4 and Bradford in Lamberts era.  Then 2015-16z And then of course Gerrard.  And Garde.  And Eric Black.  So not really a crisis.

You've just brought back a memory I thought I'd buried in that City match.He really ripped us apart that day/evening?

was at the game , if i recall it pissed down all 90 minutes and Citeh wore that black and red striped away kit . Wasn't it Grand National day

[kippaxvilla2]

I’m on about the night game and it wasn’t raining from memory and yes White scored four.

[olaftab]

I’ve reflected since yesterday after the crisis comment. 

I’ve lived through 1986-87.  A 1-5 at home to David Whites Man Citeh.  A 0-6 at home to Liverpool.  0-8, 0-3, 0-4 and Bradford in Lamberts era.  Then 2015-16z And then of course Gerrard.  And Garde.  And Eric Black.  So not really a crisis.

Ah yes but…. It depends on if you are sitting in the gutter and the kerb is a step up or you have fallen off the chesterfield onto Axminster floor. It’s the appropriate relevancy that’s lacking from your post that’s worrying me.

[kippaxvilla2]

Okay 0-1 at home to Notts County as champions.