Spurs v Villa Post Match Thread.

[pauliewalnuts]

I think the problem was more we couldnt keep the fucking ball.  Last year we were great at taking the sting out of games by keeping the ball - but we struggle to do that without luiz and kamara.

I dont think some realise what luiz bought to this side. Id take him back in a heart beat

You alone knew the value of Luiz.  If only everyone had your insight, and if the club is reading, you know who to put in charge of future transfer policy.

I suppose they should just close down the forum. None of us should dare have an opinion on the club we support. Let's leave everything to the club

Exactly. Well said 👏

It's just that you're going on and on endlessly making largely the same point.

You then go on so long, you start to contradict yourself. "Palace was this season's Moscow" or whatever it was, followed by how Unai needs to "manage his squad", failing to see the conflict between those two statements.

It's just endless and after about 2 uninterrupted hours of it, it starts to get people reacting because it just drags everyone down.

Yes yes yes, we all get your point(s).

[PaulWinch again]

How will Percy's Diego v Cash stats be reflected today? When the latter went off, were we losing or drawing?

Today was a prime example why we need reinforcements in defence. Id upgrade both carlos and cash in summer.

I thought we invested 50m on onana to help on the defensive side of things but we look arguably worse than last year defensively

I thought Onana was our best player today.

He certainly wasnt the worst but i thought he would deeply help with the defensive side of things as we lacked that physicality and height last year. We are conceding far too many goals.

We need kamara back asap.

I think mcginn could  be in trouble as i think the three should be onana Tielemans and kamara when he is fit

Agree on McGinn. Just not at it this season. Kamara + Onana + Tielemans is the best combo for me in the midfield.

Agree.

And also agree with your point about Luiz very much.

Luiz is a big loss, he had a poor second half of the season but that first half was basically the complete midfielder. Alongside Kamara they were brilliant together.

The combination at the moment has some real quality, but cannot control the tempo of the game.

[Three Spires Villa]

You don’t have to read any one’s points

[Three Spires Villa]

How will Percy's Diego v Cash stats be reflected today? When the latter went off, were we losing or drawing?

Today was a prime example why we need reinforcements in defence. Id upgrade both carlos and cash in summer.

I thought we invested 50m on onana to help on the defensive side of things but we look arguably worse than last year defensively

I thought Onana was our best player today.

He certainly wasnt the worst but i thought he would deeply help with the defensive side of things as we lacked that physicality and height last year. We are conceding far too many goals.

We need kamara back asap.

I think mcginn could  be in trouble as i think the three should be onana Tielemans and kamara when he is fit

Agree on McGinn. Just not at it this season. Kamara + Onana + Tielemans is the best combo for me in the midfield.

Agree.

And also agree with your point about Luiz very much.

Luiz is a big loss, he had a poor second half of the season but that first half was basically the complete midfielder. Alongside Kamara they were brilliant together.

The combination at the moment has some real quality, but cannot control the tempo of the game.

Correct

[Demitri_C]

I think the problem was more we couldnt keep the fucking ball.  Last year we were great at taking the sting out of games by keeping the ball - but we struggle to do that without luiz and kamara.

I dont think some realise what luiz bought to this side. Id take him back in a heart beat

You alone knew the value of Luiz.  If only everyone had your insight, and if the club is reading, you know who to put in charge of future transfer policy.

I suppose they should just close down the forum. None of us should dare have an opinion on the club we support. Let's leave everything to the club

Exactly. Well said 👏

It's just that you're going on and on endlessly making largely the same point.

You then go on so long, you start to contradict yourself. "Palace was this season's Moscow" or whatever it was, followed by how Unai needs to "manage his squad", failing to see the conflict between those two statements.

It's just endless and after about 2 uninterrupted hours of it, it starts to get people reacting because it just drags everyone down.

Yes yes yes, we all get your point(s).

i keep having to mention moscow  asits getting mentioned over and over so i have to repeat the explanation of the comparison. 

I dont know what your actual point is this is a football forum to discuss the game? Ive made various different points today not the same that you are alluding to. Its just having a go . Im not trying to bring anyone down and not looking to argue with anyone either. Im just deeply disappointed how things are going.

There has been negativity and positively tonight. One win in 5 is not good, failing to keep clean sheets in the league is not good and as others have said we havent really started in the league so far. We were flying at this stage last season. Conceding four goals in one half is really bad.

The CL has been massively positive just wish we xould circulate to the league.

[RamboandBruno]

You don’t have to read any one’s points

Its quite hard not to when they take up 3/4s of the thread.

[ChicagoLion]

Agree, the Kamara Luiz combination with SJM playing different roles was phenomenal.

[PaulWinch again]

Oh and if there is karma that psycho Romero is due a pretty bad time. A horrible piece of shit.

[brontebilly]

How will Percy's Diego v Cash stats be reflected today? When the latter went off, were we losing or drawing?

Today was a prime example why we need reinforcements in defence. Id upgrade both carlos and cash in summer.

I thought we invested 50m on onana to help on the defensive side of things but we look arguably worse than last year defensively

I thought Onana was our best player today.

He certainly wasnt the worst but i thought he would deeply help with the defensive side of things as we lacked that physicality and height last year. We are conceding far too many goals.

We need kamara back asap.

I think mcginn could  be in trouble as i think the three should be onana Tielemans and kamara when he is fit

Agree on McGinn. Just not at it this season. Kamara + Onana + Tielemans is the best combo for me in the midfield.

Agree.

And also agree with your point about Luiz very much.

Luiz is a big loss, he had a poor second half of the season but that first half was basically the complete midfielder. Alongside Kamara they were brilliant together.

The combination at the moment has some real quality, but cannot control the tempo of the game.

Agreed, the Luiz/Kamara was outstanding. We dominated pretty much everyone with those two in there. To be fair, Tielemans has been very good so far this season but he got overran in there after half time. Emery had an ideal opportunity when Rogers got injured to swap in Kamara and push Tielemans forward but he went with Duran and we paid the price. Onana has been mixed so far but thought he was decent today.
There was issues in midfield today but keystone cops stuff at the back cost us the game today.

[Chip Butty 111]

I've got a feeling this season will be the opposite of last season, so up to Christmas so-so, after Christmas kick on. .....hopefully.

[eamonn]

Can't believe Bentancur got away with not being booked. The ref had ample opportunity. Not saying that it would have made a difference but him and his colleague at centre-back were dirty bvstards.

[BoVillan esq]

Thought we got it just about right first half, except for Ollie, away team, we were composed and very tight at the back, we contained them, Spurs are not idiots, so onto the second half, the failing of the second half far outweighed the good of the first half, we looked very poor indeed, we lost total grasp of the game, Spurs where not any better, didn't do anything different, Villa lost the game, for me far to much reliance is being placed on Ollie, the squad doesn't have enough depth to it, enough quality, we need to get to January and back into the transfer window.

For me we should have beaten Palace and took that competition seriously, big mistake and we should have at least lifted a point from today.

[VillaTim]

short memories on here, Luiz was pretty poor after xmas and was in and out for 2 years until Unai rocked up. Tielemans is an infinite upgrade on Luiz he just had a bad day at the office today, they all did .

[astonvilla82]

We seem to be a soft touch at the moment in games  generally,I noticed Mings against palace giving out a few rollickings to players and that's what we seem to be missing

[villa for life]

Missing Moreno much more than Luiz. Didn’t give Moreno long enough to come back from his injury.

Should have kept him and spent the Maatsen money on a top notch right back