Spurs v Villa Post Match Thread.

[Beard82]

Just my opinion but if we’d been a bit more bothered in the week about winning a cup competition and playing a few of the players that were rested for today we wouldn’t have lost that 4-1

They knocked Man City out ffs didn’t do them any harm
All this shit about bigger fish to fry and priorities is a load of absolute bollocks
It was bollocks then it’s bollocks now it will always be bollocks

Take every game seriously, winning games in any competition never does any team any harm
We’ve totally fucked up big and proper this week

bigger fish my arse

This.

I think this is very true

[VillaTim]

Selling Diaby wasn't the issue, Bailey morphing back into Bailey 2.0 2021 version is the issue

Yeah but that what happens - to expect Bailey to be Bailey to be 23/4 bailey again is a huge ask.  Whereas maybe Diaby would have adapt more been better - hes clearly a very good player even if he did struggle at time

Diaby wanted out and the saudi millions so we had no choice on this , he seemed a sulky type so no point blocking the move

[Beard82]

Or maybe Onana and Kamara as a double pivot with Tielemans further forwards.

I think this should be tried

[Archbishop Herbert Cockthrottle]

I am only consoled by the news that Channel 5 have started to show Christmas films in the afternoon.
Time to bounce back. I pity Brugge; we're going to fucking slaughter them.

[Beard82]

Selling Diaby wasn't the issue, Bailey morphing back into Bailey 2.0 2021 version is the issue

Yeah but that what happens - to expect Bailey to be Bailey to be 23/4 bailey again is a huge ask.  Whereas maybe Diaby would have adapt more been better - hes clearly a very good player even if he did struggle at time

Diaby wanted out and the saudi millions so we had no choice on this , he seemed a sulky type so no point blocking the move

Not saying we should have, but we should have replaced him with a similar level - expecting Bailey to repeast his best ever season was always a big risk.  I didnt see any issues with Diabys temprament though.

[Astnor]

Or maybe Onana and Kamara as a double pivot with Tielemans further forwards.

I think this should be tried

Yes. Have to bench McGinn then.

[Ads]

Definitely bigger fish for me. Wycombe away and Palace at home. I was bored senseless and didn't really care. I'm buzzing to up at 3am to fly out Tuesday.

Anyway, today...

Dreadful second half. The persistence in giving the ball away was quote astonishing. Some utter gifts for goals, where in the first half they'd not laid a glove on us nor looked like doing so.

I had a worry Ollie's miss would be a problem, as if we had gone in 2 up, I couldn't see them coming back.

McGinn was poor for me, gave it away plenty. Questions abound about whether he's still got it, especially with Kamara back. Watkins very poor indeed. He struggled to hold it up, fluffed his chances and was easily contained.

We don't do defeats be half.

[ChicagoLion]

Or maybe Onana and Kamara as a double pivot with Tielemans further forwards.

I think this should be tried

The conundrum is how to get the most out of Rogers considerable ability without unbalancing the team.
Whilst Roger’s surging runs look great in the centre I am not convinced it is benefiting our overall shape.

[nick harper]

We effectively played two games today. One with Rogers and our usual 4-5-1. We drew that game 1-1. Everything was basically fine.

In the other game, Rogers went off, Duran came on, we went 4-4-2, and promptly got humped 3-0.

It's fucking annoying, but no reason to panic because it seems safe to assume Emery won't be doing that shit again.

It’s really 4-4-1-1, but I do wonder against the better sides whether we are just too light in the centre and our back four gets exposed too often.
Now Kamara is back, maybe 4-2-3-1 works better with him and Onana as the two and a combination of Ramsey, Tielemans, Rogers, Bailey, Barkley, McGinn in the three.
I agree it feels like Duran and Watkins on together is hard to make work given they both want to the lone striker.

[LeonW]

Appalling second half performance. Too many of our players off form at the minute.

[VillaTim]

Struggling to pick our MOTM , possibly Ramsey

[Demitri_C]

Im gutted.i really did think the players would try to make last seasons 4-0 right. At worse a tight lose. But losing fucking 4-1. Thought those days were behind us. Man 😢

[Mister E]

We really should not be losing to Spudddds. I wonder how much the midweek changes affected the mindset. I wonder how well set up the team was. I look at our last game against Spudddds - a 4-0 defeat at home - and wonder what we learned.
Ange seems to have to had the hex on Emery recently.
I didn't see the game so cannot comment on specifics.

[Demitri_C]

We really should not be losing to Spudddds. I wonder how much the midweek changes affected the mindset. I wonder how well set up the team was. I look at our last game against Spudddds - a 4-0 defeat at home - and wonder what we learned.
Ange seems to have to had the hex on Emery recently.
I didn't see the game so cannot comment on specifics.

Ange has schooled emery in the last two league games. A slight worry as you know how spurs are going to play as thats all they know. Yet emerys struggling against him.

[wince]

Make most of CL football this year then. Spurs are fucking rank as well