Villa v Palace Post Match Thread

[Olneythelonely]

The Bayern win has papered over a lot of cracks . Our form is distinctly average and nowhere near good enough .

Yeah before tonight wasn’t it just the one match lost this season, and top of the champions league?

Terrible form.

I said distinctly average which it is - domestic form -
Palace 1-2
Bournemouth 1-1
Fulham 3-1
ManUtd 0-0
Ipswich 2-2

Last 5 league games we’re 5th in the league on form

[Nelly]

Just got home, wowzers that was shite. We were so disjointed and so unconfident. No one willing to make space by making a run so we just constantly recycle it until we lose it.

I don't think Villa particularly care about the League Cup, which is sad for me personally but that's just where we are.

Everyone's saying Villa have a great squad and good depth, but based on tonight, do we?

[coreyfeldman]

The Bayern win has papered over a lot of cracks . Our form is distinctly average and nowhere near good enough .

Yeah before tonight wasn’t it just the one match lost this season, and top of the champions league?

Terrible form.

I said distinctly average which it is - domestic form -
Palace 1-2
Bournemouth 1-1
Fulham 3-1
ManUtd 0-0
Ipswich 2-2

Last 5 league games we’re 5th in the league on form

Tim doesn't bow to such logic as facts or anything. he knows more than us

[olaftab]

Made an effort to go, took the boys as it’s half term, didn’t know Emery was going to take the piss. A very disappointing night. Stop treating us fans like garbage Unai.

Looks like you were right with your comments before kick off!

Once again DC I am gutted that we have thrown away an opportunity without much of an effort.

[adrenachrome]

The positives.
Mings - back in the team, lasted 90 mins and played very well. He’s ready to come back.
Kamara - back in the starting line up. Lasted 90 and played very well. He’s ready to come back.
Carlos - the most improved player at the club. Looking more assured every game.

The rest of them. Shit.

Where was the urgency ? Where was the desire to try and equalise once 2-1 down ?

Buendia - every bit as lightweight and  constantly caught in possession as before his injury.
Jaden - awful. I have this feeling that he has billy big bollocks syndrome. I have thought that all season.
Gauchi - benefit of the doubt, but all in all, not very good.

Unai - I adore you, we all do. But this cup obviously is number 4 on the priority list. But you have promised us a trophy. That’s another chance gone.

Carlos?

Really? Did you see the second goal?

It seems to me that Carlos usually has these lapses of concentration in low key games against unglamorous opposition. It's as though he mentally switches off or thinks he has all the time in the world.

[DC1874]

If domestic cups don't really matter then we haven't won a proper trophy since 1982! Even Leicester and Blackburn have out done us since then ;-)

[Martyn Smith]

The most exasperating moment of the entire game was Jaden getting himself into a great position on the left of the area and then fannying around with it instead of at least trying to get a cross in

[eamonn]

Just got home, wowzers that was shite. We were so disjointed and so unconfident. No one willing to make space by making a run so we just constantly recycle it until we lose it.

I don't think Villa particularly care about the League Cup, which is sad for me personally but that's just where we are.

Everyone's saying Villa have a great squad and good depth, but based on tonight, do we?

I think we do. But you start any fresh XI that has never played together competitively and you're likely going to get a disjointed performance. A blend of experience and fresh legs is the ideal scenario for games like this but Unai wants to give all the senior players game-time and we happen to have 22 of them.

Palace played their first team, from what I can see. And anyone who saw them beat Spurs on Sunday will know that they are capable of playing very well.

[Paul.S]

Just got home, wowzers that was shite. We were so disjointed and so unconfident. No one willing to make space by making a run so we just constantly recycle it until we lose it.

I don't think Villa particularly care about the League Cup, which is sad for me personally but that's just where we are.

Everyone's saying Villa have a great squad and good depth, but based on tonight, do we?

I think we have a better squad than last season but not one where we can change the team like we did tonight.
With Mings and Kamara back and with the emergence of Duran then we are much stronger. I think we are weaker out wide with Bailey’s worrying form and Philogene still settling to life under Emery.

[SaddVillan]

Unai has been unequivocal -  domestic cups aren't top priority. (He's only won cups in the one horse race of Ligue I).

The goal is to increase our income as quickly as possible to generate the money we need to build the club on and off the pitch. The 2 best routes to do that most effectively are the EPL and Champions League - they're his clear targets.

The Carabao and FA Cups are, for the moment nice to haves - but they're not that significant in terms of prize money.

Given time, we'll strengthen the squad such that we'll have proper strength in depth and a group of properly rotatable players, sufficient to compete on all 4 fronts.

At the moment that isn't where we are.

Getting to a position where we're regular (almost guaranteed) ECL qualifiers is Unai's goal. As and when we get there, then the domestic cups will come into view.

As a longstanding fan whose waited a lifetime to win the Holy Grail this is difficult to swallow, but it's where we are at the moment.

That might disappoint traditionalists (and I am one), but it's our current reality.

[Villan82]

A sad night for me. After two years of blind happy clapping this is the first night of the Emery era that I find myself a bit disappointed.

It's so frustrating. I'm getting on and I want to see a Villa captain hoist a cup over his head. If not now, when?

If you've got over Stevenage to the point it doesn't register, you'll definitely get over this.

I got over Stevenage because of the context of where we were as a club- re-establishing ourselves in the league, trying to build a new foundation with Emery. Two years on I thought we were at a place where we could have a right go in  a cup.

[Percy McCarthy]

Anyway, well done to Palace for taking it seriously. Hope they win the cup.

Arsenal away next

Yep, and two of their best three players injured.

[LeeB]

My last 3 games in the Holte:

Stevenage 1-2
Everton 1-2
Tonight.

Sorry everyone.

My last two were tonight and Chelsea in the cup last year so it's not just on you.

[tomd2103]

Just got home, wowzers that was shite. We were so disjointed and so unconfident. No one willing to make space by making a run so we just constantly recycle it until we lose it.

I don't think Villa particularly care about the League Cup, which is sad for me personally but that's just where we are.

Everyone's saying Villa have a great squad and good depth, but based on tonight, do we?

I heard an interview with Unai Emery on Radio WM where he said that the Premier League was the priority and then the Champions League.  The two domestic cups weren't even mentioned. 

[coreyfeldman]

Unai has been unequivocal -  domestic cups aren't top priority. (He's only won cups in the one horse race of Ligue I).

The goal is to increase our income as quickly as possible to generate the money we need to build the club on and off the pitch. The 2 best routes to do that most effectively are the EPL and Champions League - they're his clear targets.

The Carabao and FA Cups are, for the moment nice to haves - but they're not that significant in terms of prize money.

Given time, we'll strengthen the squad such that we'll have proper strength in depth and a group of properly rotatable players, sufficient to compete on all 4 fronts.

At the moment that isn't where we are.

Getting to a position where we're regular (almost guaranteed) ECL qualifiers is Unai's goal. As and when we get there, then the domestic cups will come into view.

As a longstanding fan whose waited a lifetime to win the Holy Grail this is difficult to swallow, but it's where we are at the moment.

That might disappoint traditionalists (and I am one), but it's our current reality.

Excellently put. Lots of people stating "Emery is a cup specialist" but european cups have been his thing, not domestics