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Re: Are you worried?
« Reply #90 on: November 03, 2024, 06:43:55 PM »
This thread was a lovely idea and on days like today is idiotic.

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Re: Are you worried?
« Reply #91 on: November 03, 2024, 06:45:23 PM »
For the first time in his reign i sense there is a tiny bit of pressure on Emery now . He needs to sort that defence out to start it's been our chilles heel for far too long. The Mings/Konsa CB pairing needs to return ASAP .

There is ZERO pressure on Emery and to suggest it (even a tiny amount) is flat out laughable. I pay very little attention to the routine pile ons you seem to generate on here, but with comments like this it's clear that you are a troll. Pressure on the manager who is leading us to the knock-out rounds of the actual champions league?  Pressure on the manager who has us sitting in the top 6 level on points with Arsenal and Chelsea after 10 games?
There is pressure on every PL manager. Emery isn't immune from it .

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Re: Are you worried?
« Reply #92 on: November 03, 2024, 07:01:17 PM »
I do like these new slumps that are a first league defeat since August. They're better than the old ones, although you still get the same level of bollocks spouted after them. Still, can't have it all.

That might be true of some nonsense - references to Moscow come to mind. But there is a bit of an issue. We’ve had a pretty benign start to the season and our form is not great, neither attack or defence are really functioning right. So it might only be the second defeat since August, but we’ve only player 3 sides in the top 10 and we’ve one point to show for it.

Ive stated why its not nonsense. We sacrificed both games in those european for nothing as we didnt win the following game. Thats the point i and one or two others have said.

Had we won today it wouldnt have been a moscow where we rested players for no reason.

The palace game we could have had a few players on the bench keep them fresh and maybe give them 15-20 mins. Ollie just looked so poor today. Maybe 15 mins midweek would have benefited him. Who knows

I agree with the rest of your post though its pretty spot on we your summary on our start of the season.

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Re: Are you worried?
« Reply #93 on: November 03, 2024, 07:14:10 PM »
Not worried at all.

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Re: Are you worried?
« Reply #94 on: November 03, 2024, 07:16:03 PM »
I'd rather be in the Champions League every year than win the League Cup. It's miles more fun, as a fan. Nobody cares about the League Cup. It's been massively devalued since we last won it and 2011...if that filth can win it, what's the point.

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Re: Are you worried?
« Reply #95 on: November 03, 2024, 07:19:30 PM »
On the plus side we’ll know which direction we’re heading pretty sharpish. Liverpool away, Palace home, Chelsea away. We are going to need to raise our game significantly, hopefully today jolts us a bit.

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Re: Are you worried?
« Reply #96 on: November 03, 2024, 07:22:24 PM »
I'd rather be in the Champions League every year than win the League Cup. It's miles more fun, as a fan. Nobody cares about the League Cup. It's been massively devalued since we last won it and 2011...if that filth can win it, what's the point.
I'd rather win silverware its almost 30 years now , champions league will be fun this year but we aren't winning it .

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Re: Are you worried?
« Reply #97 on: November 03, 2024, 07:34:15 PM »
I'd rather be in the Champions League every year than win the League Cup. It's miles more fun, as a fan. Nobody cares about the League Cup. It's been massively devalued since we last won it and 2011...if that filth can win it, what's the point.

Winning a trophy is more fun for me

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Re: Are you worried?
« Reply #98 on: November 03, 2024, 07:38:30 PM »
In 50 years time will it be on the club honours list that we finished 7th, 4th and ???. If we win a mere League cup at least it's another pot in the cabinet and another notch on the bed post!

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Re: Are you worried?
« Reply #99 on: November 03, 2024, 07:42:54 PM »
In 50 years time will it be on the club honours list that we finished 7th, 4th and ???. If we win a mere League cup at least it's another pot in the cabinet and another notch on the bed post!

In my opinion its really bad that the last trophy we won was in 1996. If you want to be a big club you need to win far more than that.

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Re: Are you worried?
« Reply #100 on: November 03, 2024, 07:44:19 PM »
In 50 years time will it be on the club honours list that we finished 7th, 4th and ???. If we win a mere League cup at least it's another pot in the cabinet and another notch on the bed post!

In my opinion its really bad that the last trophy we won was in 1996. If you want to be a big club you need to win far more than that.

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Re: Are you worried?
« Reply #101 on: November 03, 2024, 07:51:01 PM »
I do like these new slumps that are a first league defeat since August. They're better than the old ones, although you still get the same level of bollocks spouted after them. Still, can't have it all.

That might be true of some nonsense - references to Moscow come to mind. But there is a bit of an issue. We’ve had a pretty benign start to the season and our form is not great, neither attack or defence are really functioning right. So it might only be the second defeat since August, but we’ve only player 3 sides in the top 10 and we’ve one point to show for it.

Ive stated why its not nonsense. We sacrificed both games in those european for nothing as we didnt win the following game. Thats the point i and one or two others have said.

Had we won today it wouldnt have been a moscow where we rested players for no reason.

The palace game we could have had a few players on the bench keep them fresh and maybe give them 15-20 mins. Ollie just looked so poor today. Maybe 15 mins midweek would have benefited him. Who knows

I agree with the rest of your post though its pretty spot on we your summary on our start of the season.

Yes but it doesn’t stack up. When O’Neill did it he had been playing his strongest side in Europe, in the main, to have a real go at the competition. He then did a complete u-turn to prioritise a couple of league games and it backfired in both competitions. It was also later in the season with more tangible consequences in terms of the league.

Emery has been entirely consistent with what he’s done in the League Cup, it wasn’t about prioritising this specific game. It was about trying to manage workload across the season. Both results sucked, but the decisions were entirely consistent and independent.

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Re: Are you worried?
« Reply #102 on: November 03, 2024, 08:00:04 PM »
In 50 years time will it be on the club honours list that we finished 7th, 4th and ???. If we win a mere League cup at least it's another pot in the cabinet and another notch on the bed post!

In my opinion its really bad that the last trophy we won was in 1996. If you want to be a big club you need to win far more than that.

This is very very true

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Re: Are you worried?
« Reply #103 on: November 03, 2024, 08:05:29 PM »
In 50 years time will it be on the club honours list that we finished 7th, 4th and ???. If we win a mere League cup at least it's another pot in the cabinet and another notch on the bed post!

In my opinion its really bad that the last trophy we won was in 1996. If you want to be a big club you need to win far more than that.

A Peace Cup disbeliever!
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Re: Are you worried?
« Reply #104 on: November 03, 2024, 08:07:46 PM »
I do like these new slumps that are a first league defeat since August. They're better than the old ones, although you still get the same level of bollocks spouted after them. Still, can't have it all.

That might be true of some nonsense - references to Moscow come to mind. But there is a bit of an issue. We’ve had a pretty benign start to the season and our form is not great, neither attack or defence are really functioning right. So it might only be the second defeat since August, but we’ve only player 3 sides in the top 10 and we’ve one point to show for it.

Ive stated why its not nonsense. We sacrificed both games in those european for nothing as we didnt win the following game. Thats the point i and one or two others have said.

Had we won today it wouldnt have been a moscow where we rested players for no reason.

The palace game we could have had a few players on the bench keep them fresh and maybe give them 15-20 mins. Ollie just looked so poor today. Maybe 15 mins midweek would have benefited him. Who knows

I agree with the rest of your post though its pretty spot on we your summary on our start of the season.

Yes but it doesn’t stack up. When O’Neill did it he had been playing his strongest side in Europe, in the main, to have a real go at the competition. He then did a complete u-turn to prioritise a couple of league games and it backfired in both competitions. It was also later in the season with more tangible consequences in terms of the league.

Emery has been entirely consistent with what he’s done in the League Cup, it wasn’t about prioritising this specific game. It was about trying to manage workload across the season. Both results sucked, but the decisions were entirely consistent and independent.

 Probably the most convincing counter argument on this. I wont spend too much time on this as paulie will do his nut in! My point was where we ended up finishing i was just highlighing we sacrificed a cup game which resulted  in us exiting and then backfired as we failed to win the next game which is exactly what happened this evening. This was always my worry.

I do think unai could have named a stronger bench in the cup. I do think we would have won the palace game at least even if we lost today. Oh well its done now. Just hope unai takes the domestic cups more seriously next season as i want a trophy in my lifetime!

 


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