Wycombe Wanderers vs Aston Villa Post-Glorious Triumph Thread

[john e]

For an Emery team starting Maatson, Buendia, Onana, Bailey, Duran and Barkley I expected a lot better performance to be honest
There’s probably 200mill plus players there so I don’t go along with this can’t expect any better as we only had kids out there, yes there was kids but that was also more than half the team in and around the first team

The squads a lot stronger now than it used to be and we should be doing a lot better than that boring piss poor display last night

[Ads]

The players didn't care and truth be told, neither did I. I was contemplating why they're called Chairboys and if it would be fairer for the Champions League clubs to enter in the quarter final. Or maybe just not at all.

[Mister E]

I thought that, despite the goal conceded, Swinkels showed some good stuff; Borland looked good in possession; Nedeljkovic and Maatsen are good fullbacks; Gauci generally looked secure.
The concerning bit was the poor leadership of Onana, Barkley and Bailey: these 3 really should had grasped the game by the scruff of its neck and driven a better team performance and outcome.
We also learned that Duran's role as target man is not yet fully developed: his first touch often let him down, and the physicality of the defending CBs seemed to unnerve him.
And, Buendia is still a little easily knocked off the ball, albeit he is finding his way back in the game.
Overall, not great but some positives.

[Drummond]

Our squad value £500m, their squad value £500k.

We didn't need to step up the pace, we controlled the game, it was good experience for the younger players and a warm up and stretch of the legs for the seniors.

We don't need, in September, and in the middle of a run of Premier League and Champions League games, to be running ourselves into the ground.

As for being boring, that's all that's needed.

[Toronto Villa]

Yep agreed Drummond. We expended the energy we needed to get through. It wasn’t great and it didn’t need to be to get through. Chelsea are giving it the big one battering Barrow at home. Good for them. Pep today said what Emery is likely thinking that he doesn't want to waste energy on this competition which sad, but true. Managers at the top end are making this low priority and it will show in the players picked and the disjointed performances.

[Dave]

Chelsea are giving it the big one battering Barrow at home. Good for them.

Yup, I imagine if we'd played two French international centre-backs who'd cost us a combined £70m instead of two children from our youth team and they'd put in that slightly-dodgy-but-no-harm-done performance against a League One side, then I'd be a bit more concerned than I am.

Also a sighting of the lesser-spotted Chukwuemeka off the bench for them yesterday.

[Dogtanian]

Driving back from Wycombe, my mate had TwatSport on the radio. They kept going on about Chelsea winning the league... it was so cringeworthy. You'd thing they'd just battered Man City.

[paul_e]

I thought that, despite the goal conceded, Swinkels showed some good stuff; Borland looked good in possession; Nedeljkovic and Maatsen are good fullbacks; Gauci generally looked secure.
The concerning bit was the poor leadership of Onana, Barkley and Bailey: these 3 really should had grasped the game by the scruff of its neck and driven a better team performance and outcome.
We also learned that Duran's role as target man is not yet fully developed: his first touch often let him down, and the physicality of the defending CBs seemed to unnerve him.
And, Buendia is still a little easily knocked off the ball, albeit he is finding his way back in the game.
Overall, not great but some positives.

I'm not sure it unnerved as much as when they shoved him the ref allowed it, when he did it back they got free kicks. There were 2-3 times he outmuscled a defender, the whistle went and he turned to the ref looking confused as to why he wasn't allowed to compete.

Yep agreed Drummond. We expended the energy we needed to get through. It wasn’t great and it didn’t need to be to get through. Chelsea are giving it the big one battering Barrow at home. Good for them. Pep today said what Emery is likely thinking that he doesn't want to waste energy on this competition which sad, but true. Managers at the top end are making this low priority and it will show in the players picked and the disjointed performances.

and this is why I'd be ok with the teams in Europe being dropped from this cup. Our squad last night showed how we were taking it, a handful of first team players who need the minutes and then a bunch of young players with about 10 appearances between them.

[LeeB]

The ref was certainly one of those 'let's give the little team a helping hand' types, and I shuddered at one point when realising that from behind he looked like a young Graham Poll.

[john e]

But the usefulness of the carabao cup especially in the early rounds is that you can play a mixture of kids and players that need minutes
Personally I thought our team was pretty strong last night, and we got to see a few youngsters making the debut when else are they going to play

He’s not going to throw them in against Bayern or a Premier League game at the moment, so the cup games are opportunities for players on the fringes

[paul_e]

But the usefulness of the carabao cup especially in the early rounds is that you can play a mixture of kids and players that need minutes
Personally I thought our team was pretty strong last night, and we got to see a few youngsters making the debut when else are they going to play

He’s not going to throw them in against Bayern or a Premier League game at the moment, so the cup games are opportunities for players on the fringes

Which is fine so long as we know that means performances like last night and that it means we're 'disrespecting' the cup like all the big teams do (until the semi-final).

[john e]

But the usefulness of the carabao cup especially in the early rounds is that you can play a mixture of kids and players that need minutes
Personally I thought our team was pretty strong last night, and we got to see a few youngsters making the debut when else are they going to play

He’s not going to throw them in against Bayern or a Premier League game at the moment, so the cup games are opportunities for players on the fringes

Which is fine so long as we know that means performances like last night and that it means we're 'disrespecting' the cup like all the big teams do (until the semi-final).

I was disappointed with the performance last night, I don’t think we disrespected the cup I thought we played a strong team
The players we had out should’ve done better in my view, but that’s just my personal opinion, people that were happy with that performance fair enough

All I do know is we have the most demanding manager in the league, that’s why he uses the word all the time
He literally said at the weekend that we played shit in the first half of our game against Wolves, I can’t imagine for one minute that Emery would be happy with some of the stuff we saw last night,

At the end of the day his standards are obviously far higher than yours whereas you might be happy sacking the cup of he will demand high standards in every game from every player

That’s the difference

[LeeB]

There was a point last night when the camera was on Emery and he was giving some instruction to a player off screen, and you could see he was a bit exasperated but was trying to be encouraging to the player in question as well, as it's probably one of the kids, but when he'd finished and turned away the look on his face said "For fuck's sake, useless bastard".

I found it really funny.

[paul_e]

But the usefulness of the carabao cup especially in the early rounds is that you can play a mixture of kids and players that need minutes
Personally I thought our team was pretty strong last night, and we got to see a few youngsters making the debut when else are they going to play

He’s not going to throw them in against Bayern or a Premier League game at the moment, so the cup games are opportunities for players on the fringes

Which is fine so long as we know that means performances like last night and that it means we're 'disrespecting' the cup like all the big teams do (until the semi-final).

I was disappointed with the performance last night, I don’t think we disrespected the cup I thought we played a strong team
The players we had out should’ve done better in my view, but that’s just my personal opinion, people that were happy with that performance fair enough

All I do know is we have the most demanding manager in the league, that’s why he uses the word all the time
He literally said at the weekend that we played shit in the first half of our game against Wolves, I can’t imagine for one minute that Emery would be happy with some of the stuff we saw last night,

At the end of the day his standards are obviously far higher than yours whereas you might be happy sacking the cup of he will demand high standards in every game from every player

That’s the difference

It's not about being happy or not with the performance, it's about accepting it as a massive possiblity all along because it's just not very important to us. I doubt Emery put all that much effort into the game at all, and that's reflected by the performance. Take a look at how we played in the cup (and european) games early last season compared to the league and ask yourself why we looked disjointed so often in those games if Emery was putting in the same preperation.

Of course it's totally in character for you to play the 'better fan' card though so I think I'll just leave it here.

[Bad English]

There was a point last night when the camera was on Emery and he was giving some instruction to a player off screen, and you could see he was a bit exasperated but was trying to be encouraging to the player in question as well, as it's probably one of the kids, but when he'd finished and turned away the look on his face said "For fuck's sake, useless bastard".

I found it really funny.

This sounds like my job.