Young Boys vs Aston Villa Post-Match Thread

[sid1964]

As I was working, just seen the highlights of the game, as you would expect for the home side they started the game well, and then we grew into the game and took control.

Watkins goal for me was not a handball, the Duran goal was handball in the build up, which is a shame because it was an excellent finish.

Looking forward to the Bayern game, which will be a very tough test for us.

There is a good article on the BBC sport website - "The guy is a genius" which is all about a certain Manager!!

[VillaTim]

No issue with Durans goal being chalked off, as blatant a hand ball as we will ever see.

Big massive problem with Ollie’s goal being chalked off, Ive yet to see a pic where the ball definitely touches his hand.

My problem with ruling the Duran goal out is how far back do you go? There was quite a bit of play between the handball and the goal.

Does his yellow card get chalked off too then

[ozzjim]

Yes i went with my youngest, perfect kick off time for a school night....bit of a pain traffic wise but got there in plenty of time. Alan McInally was the guest speaker, some lovely words spoken for our lost hero and a short tribute video was shown before the game. A nice victory made the night.

I was there too at VP. Was a really good atmosphere. The lights are in silly places to see the screens at times, and they could have filled 3 more terrace views on the night I reckon. Rambo was his usually level of excellent with the crowd. Good night there to be fair.

[rob_bridge]

Can't see from main angles how Ollie's was handball.

Duan's - well fair enough handball was integral to that phase of play.


3.0 could have been more.

Great start - let's see off the Dingles on Saturday

[The Edge]

Great start to our Champions league adventure. Such a shame Durans goal got ruled out as others have said how far back do you go though to find a reason to disallow a goal? Ollie still looking out of sorts and very clumsy but I'd love to hear an explanation as to why his goal got ruled out because at no point does the ball touch his hand from the angles I've seen.

[Demitri_C]

No issue with Durans goal being chalked off, as blatant a hand ball as we will ever see.

Big massive problem with Ollie’s goal being chalked off, Ive yet to see a pic where the ball definitely touches his hand.

My problem with ruling the Duran goal out is how far back do you go? There was quite a bit of play between the handball and the goal.

Thats my problem with it. If we scored 5 minutes after are you pulling that back 5 mins after? VAR should be stopping that either straight away or set time limits to when play can be brought back.

Ollies goal for me was the worst of the two. Never hand ball

[PaulWinch again]

I do sort of get the time limit point, but feel that people are grasping at extremes. I haven’t watched it back, so I might be wrong, but was the Onana handball less than 5 passes and about 10 seconds before the goal went in? It didn’t feel like a long time.

The Ollie one doesn’t make sense.

Ah Dave’s confirmed below, so not far off in my memory.

[Dave]

Great start to our Champions league adventure. Such a shame Durans goal got ruled out as others have said how far back do you go though to find a reason to disallow a goal?

It's a perfectly valid question in the abstract, but six passes and sixteen seconds is definitely fine.

[Demitri_C]

Great start to our Champions league adventure. Such a shame Durans goal got ruled out as others have said how far back do you go though to find a reason to disallow a goal?

It's a perfectly valid question in the abstract, but six passes and sixteen seconds is definitely fine.

I watched it back and it felt longer at the time. I have changed my position since last night based on that aspect alone.

But i do think they need to clarify in future how long you can go back for decisions like this. Maybe something like 30-45 seconds or at worst 60 seconds then it was nullified.

Ollies one though no excuse why that was disallowed

[The Edge]

If they think that the ball hit Ollie's arm instead of his midriff they need to go to specsavers. Either that or it's corrupt. Those betting syndicates in the far east would no doubt be able to lump on a goal being disallowed in both half's. Just a thought.

[Bad English]

I'm getting worried now. What if they go back to Sheffield United and allow their goal thereby relegating us and disqualifying us from the CL?

[rob_bridge]

Great start to our Champions league adventure. Such a shame Durans goal got ruled out as others have said how far back do you go though to find a reason to disallow a goal?

It's a perfectly valid question in the abstract, but six passes and sixteen seconds is definitely fine.

I watched it back and it felt longer at the time. I have changed my position since last night based on that aspect alone.

But i do think they need to clarify in future how long you can go back for decisions like this. Maybe something like 30-45 seconds or at worst 60 seconds then it was nullified.

Ollies one though no excuse why that was disallowed

Bruce used to go back about 4 minutes when managing Blues.  A 50:50 free kick could have gone the other way

[manic-road]

Brilliant performance from the team last night, the link up play between Tielemans Ramsey and Morgan has been getting better and better every game.

Munich will be a lot tougher but with Emery anything is possible.

[Risso]

Great start to our Champions league adventure. Such a shame Durans goal got ruled out as others have said how far back do you go though to find a reason to disallow a goal?

It's a perfectly valid question in the abstract, but six passes and sixteen seconds is definitely fine.

Says who? And even if it was, it had to be deliberate hand ball to be ruled out.

[Demitri_C]

Great start to our Champions league adventure. Such a shame Durans goal got ruled out as others have said how far back do you go though to find a reason to disallow a goal?

It's a perfectly valid question in the abstract, but six passes and sixteen seconds is definitely fine.

I watched it back and it felt longer at the time. I have changed my position since last night based on that aspect alone.

But i do think they need to clarify in future how long you can go back for decisions like this. Maybe something like 30-45 seconds or at worst 60 seconds then it was nullified.

Ollies one though no excuse why that was disallowed

Bruce used to go back about 4 minutes when managing Blues.  A 50:50 free kick could have gone the other way

Haha good old fistface. But you do have to blame the powers at be for not making the rules clear so we all understand.

I think mccoist called the handball for onana literally within a second.  VAR should have seen that straight away and said to ref hand ball.

I still find the clear and obvious error aspect very vague. It just seems to be a rule they use when it suits their narrative and isnt always consistent