Young Boys vs Aston Villa Post-Match Thread

[Drummond]

Maybe there's an angle we haven't seen?

[London Villan]

Oli is the sort of character to say if it did, or didn't, in the post-match interview.

[john e]

Refs lean towards big sides Bruce admitted as much as he played for Man Utd
Call it what you want but it happens not all the time but enough to make a difference

Remember that time at Old Trafford in the FA cup when we equalised they went back so far and found that JJ ran into someone and disallowed it
No way would that have happened the other way around, no way and I don’t care what anyone thinks

[Dante Lavelli]

In the euros there was some sort of chip in the ball that could detect the slightest contacts (snicko style).  Does the VAR portacabin have access to that technology?

[PeterWithesShin]

They went so far back in that FA Cup game they disallowed it for a foul by John Gidman on Brian Greenhoff.

[john e]

They went so far back in that FA Cup game they disallowed it for a foul by John Gidman on Brian Greenhoff.

Ha ha
Then we sold Gidman to them

[UK Redsox]

Under the current laws, the Panda goal was always going to be disallowed.
Not sure why the Ref went to the screen for that one and not for the Ollie one.
If he had, the Ref may have stuck with his decision and allowed the goal

[Risso]

Under the current laws, the Panda goal was always going to be disallowed.
Not sure why the Ref went to the screen for that one and not for the Ollie one.
If he had, the Ref may have stuck with his decision and allowed the goal

Under the current rules, the goal should have stood. Accidental hand ball by a team mate does NOT result in a goal being disallowed. And it clearly is an accident as you can see him moving his leg to try to get the to the ball, but it hits his hand first.

[RamboandBruno]

Love that McGinn interview, but how classy is our Guvnor. The first thing he mentions post match is Gary Shaw, he’s the business.

[Demitri_C]

Love unai ❤️

He really is the messiah

[PaulWinch again]

As an aside I think it’s bizarre the rules cover whether it’s accidental or not. Trying to assess that is always going to be difficult, unless it’s like Suarez in the World Cup. It should really be whether it created an advantage or not, and whether it was avoidable. I realise there’s still subjectivity to that, but it’s less murky than trying to read someone’s intention.

[Somniloquism]

Under the current laws, the Panda goal was always going to be disallowed.
Not sure why the Ref went to the screen for that one and not for the Ollie one.
If he had, the Ref may have stuck with his decision and allowed the goal

Because it is subjective. Any handball by the scorer is definitive (although how they called Ollies needs to be clarified as it certainly wasn't obvious on most replays). But as Onana didn't score it, it needed the ref to then decide it if it was accidental or not. I'm guessing it was called on the arm being so high and "not natural". For it going our way on both decision types, look at Arsenal home for goal scoring handball and West Ham away for the Ref being sent to the screen when Soucek pushed it into Bowens path.

[Percy McCarthy]

Probably yeah, but what happened is quite different from that scenario.

I thought accidental handball in the lead up to the goal was allowed, but not in the actual act of scoring.. Was it perhaps deemed deliberate?

[Demitri_C]

As an aside I think it’s bizarre the rules cover whether it’s accidental or not. Trying to assess that is always going to be difficult, unless it’s like Suarez in the World Cup. It should really be whether it created an advantage or not, and whether it was avoidable. I realise there’s still subjectivity to that, but it’s less murky than trying to read someone’s intention.

This is sort of my argument- the rules are vague and difficult to understand. Need to keep it simple so we know what they are

[Legion]

It is odd that a handball in your own half, not spotted by the ref, three passes prior and a good few seconds before a goal can be used as a reason to disallow a goal.

A clear and obvious error? I don't know. VAR was a mess this evening. The Watkins goal should have stood.