Young Boys vs Aston Villa Post-Match Thread

[LeeB]

Isn't it the case anyway that accidental handball by a team mate shouldn't lead to a goal being ruled out? Or are they arguing that it was deliberate by Onana?

This was my point, it wasn't deliberate, and given how far back it was you've got to disregard it.

They were fucking idiots, thankfully we're so good now it doesn't matter.

[Demitri_C]

As much as how far it went back I can't work out how the ref didn't see the handball when it happened. I also agree with Demitri that he gave them some really soft free kicks early on. I don't think it was some great conspiracy, he was just a bit overwhelmed early on and then made a really bad mistake.

The only truly dodgy decision was the Watkins goal being disallowed. The only mitigation is if they did have the tech that detects the slightest of contact with the ball but even still it's a tough call against us.

Thats what i was getting it. The ref wasnt very good tonight esp first half for me.

I think the duran goal getting chalked off was  harsh as no time limit is taken into consideration.  Think the rules need to be clearer on how long you can take a a decision back by.

As for munich i was just saying i expect we wont get many decisions go our way. You can bet if kane the dover dives they get a pen. That arsehole has a habit of doing that against us

[nigel]

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[LeeS]

If that JD goal had been given against us I’d be absolutely livid. Anyway, all’s well that ends well. Magnificent return to the big time.

[Bent Neilsens Screamer]

Great performance overall. Bit of a dodgy start but grew into the game and became totally dominant.
Tielemans was superb and controlled the game, Ramsey and Rogers offered options carrying the ball although the latter still needs to improve his decision making.
I thought the decision to disallow Duran’s goal was correct, what a great finish though but what was he booked for?
Watkins can feel hard done by to have his chalked off.

[Demitri_C]

Demetri, be honest if it were the other way round you’d be lauding the decision.

I might be to be honest paul

I just feel there needs to be clarification on the rules on how back a decision can go. As it seems to be a grey area

[PaulWinch again]

As much as how far it went back I can't work out how the ref didn't see the handball when it happened. I also agree with Demitri that he gave them some really soft free kicks early on. I don't think it was some great conspiracy, he was just a bit overwhelmed early on and then made a really bad mistake.

The only truly dodgy decision was the Watkins goal being disallowed. The only mitigation is if they did have the tech that detects the slightest of contact with the ball but even still it's a tough call against us.

Thats what i was getting it. The ref wasnt very good tonight esp first half for me.

I think the duran goal getting chalked off was  harsh as no time limit is taken into consideration.  Think the rules need to be clearer on how long you can take a a decision back by.

As for munich i was just saying i expect we wont get many decisions go our way. You can bet if kane the dover dives they get a pen. That arsehole has a habit of doing that against us

You’re slightly revised history though. You said they tried to “shaft” us and that we won’t get any decisions against Bayern because they want them in the final. You can surely see that’s a bit different to stating there were some contentious decisions.

[Demitri_C]

As much as how far it went back I can't work out how the ref didn't see the handball when it happened. I also agree with Demitri that he gave them some really soft free kicks early on. I don't think it was some great conspiracy, he was just a bit overwhelmed early on and then made a really bad mistake.

The only truly dodgy decision was the Watkins goal being disallowed. The only mitigation is if they did have the tech that detects the slightest of contact with the ball but even still it's a tough call against us.

Thats what i was getting it. The ref wasnt very good tonight esp first half for me.

I think the duran goal getting chalked off was  harsh as no time limit is taken into consideration.  Think the rules need to be clearer on how long you can take a a decision back by.

As for munich i was just saying i expect we wont get many decisions go our way. You can bet if kane the dover dives they get a pen. That arsehole has a habit of doing that against us

You’re slightly revised history though. You said they tried to “shaft” us and that we won’t get any decisions against Bayern because they want them in the final. You can surely see that’s a bit different to stating there were some contentious decisions.

Well when i see a string of poor decisions go against us thats what it feels like. I mean the Watkins one was a disgrace

As foe munich lets wait and see in two weeks. I am going to say we get afew poor decisions go against us. No guessing that rat kane will be involved somehow should that be the case!

[john2710]

I thought the handball rule was if it led directly to a goal (as was supposedly the case with Watkins) then the goal was disallowed. So Duran's goal should have stood & I've seen nothing that shows Watkins was handball either.

English teams get feck all in Europe.

Anyway we were brilliant.

[London Villan]

Any post-match interviews anywhere? - I'd like to know if Oli did touch the ball with his hand.

[PeterWithesShin]

[London Villan]

It is odd that a handball in your own half, not spotted by the ref, three passes prior and a good few seconds before a goal can be used as a reason to disallow a goal.

[Stu]

These officials and VAR get everywhere!

From the BBC:

Harry Kane has fired Bayern Munich into a 1-0 lead against Dinamo Zagreb with a penalty.

Serge Gnabry thought he had given Bayern the lead but his goal was ruled out by the VAR for offside... but the VAR then spotted a foul on Aleksandar Pavlovic so awarded a spot-kick instead.

This is why it’s bullshit. This happened to us against Man U a couple of years ago. They should only get to check for one thing, not search footage to ping teams on.

[Demitri_C]

These officials and VAR get everywhere!

From the BBC:

Harry Kane has fired Bayern Munich into a 1-0 lead against Dinamo Zagreb with a penalty.

Serge Gnabry thought he had given Bayern the lead but his goal was ruled out by the VAR for offside... but the VAR then spotted a foul on Aleksandar Pavlovic so awarded a spot-kick instead.

This is why it’s bullshit. This happened to us against Man U a couple of years ago. They should only get to check for one thing, not search footage to ping teams on.

They do this for the bigger sides alot. Manure benefit from this massively

Munich dont look great at the back tbh if we play well our attacking players can cause them some problems.

We certainly need to be good defensively.  I know its a long shot but many kamara or mings would be ideal for that game esp mings for his physicality

[Bent Neilsens Screamer]

It is odd that a handball in your own half, not spotted by the ref, three passes prior and a good few seconds before a goal can be used as a reason to disallow a goal.

I think it’s odd that a ball dropping off a players chest that may or may not have brushed his hand, it’s inconclusive from the replays, gets disallowed yet a blatant handball, not that it was intentional, doesn’t get chalked off by the VAR but gets chalked off by the ref once he’s looked at the pitch side tv.