2024 Summer Transfer Window. The Verdict.

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[algy]

I always think that there are so many issues that we as fans just aren't aware off. We begin to understand the limitations of PSR (PL/CL), there is also the personal issues at stake, I think UE is a real gent and treats the players really well. Maybe Mings will come back... What does it say if sign another expensive CB? I love that Bogarde is there (the lad looked class). It is frustrating that we can't get bigger names but it feels like the owners/UE treat the club and the team like a family. Maybe some of those loaned out really need game time to develop. Many angles to consider.

I know UE will disappoint us in some games. He will make mistakes. We may get found out short in some games. But I genuinely feel like there's a phenomenal (compared with the clown shows we had in the past) foundation being built: financial, ethical, style. It may take time. But I see us moving in the right direction. And above all - we are not cheating our way to the top. UTV

PS - considering not just the footballing element but also the financial one - I'd give the window an 8/10

Agree 1000% with this.

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[eamonn]

Re The Athletic's article, Durán deserved a paragraph of analysis plus Sanson being sold for a "nominal" fee is lazy research, we got £4m for him, didn't we?

[Hookeysmith]

Starting team Vs West Ham

Martínez

Cash
Konsa
Torres
Digne

Onana
Tielemans
Bailey
Rogers
McGinn

Watkins

Substitutes
Diego Carlos
Barkley
Durán
Buendía
Gauci
Philogene
Nedeljkovic
Maatsen
Ramsey

So when everyone fit who is dropped to accomodate Kamara / Mings / Bogarde. Mings / Kamara only weeks away as well.

It is no wonder the two Juventus lads went out on loan. WE could not just keep stock piling players - we are not the mad house that is Chelsea

Plus SUE likes a tighter, compact squad

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[Toronto Villa]

Starting team Vs West Ham

Martínez

Cash
Konsa
Torres
Digne

Onana
Tielemans
Bailey
Rogers
McGinn

Watkins

Substitutes
Diego Carlos
Barkley
Durán
Buendía
Gauci
Philogene
Nedeljkovic
Maatsen
Ramsey

So when everyone fit who is dropped to accomodate Kamara / Mings / Bogarde. Mings / Kamara only weeks away as well.

It is no wonder the two Juventus lads went out on loan. WE could not just keep stock piling players - we are not the mad house that is Chelsea

Plus SUE likes a tighter, compact squad

Oh how that made me laugh. Cheers Hookey

[Risso]

It is no wonder the two Juventus lads went out on loan. WE could not just keep stock piling players - we are not the mad house that is Chelsea

Plus SUE likes a tighter, compact squad

Would it not have made more sense to keep at least Barrenechea around until January? I don't think we'll see Kamara on the pitch until getting towards Christmas going off usual Villa bad injury timelines, and there's no guarantee Mings will be back at anything like his previous level either. And as for everybody being fit, that's very rarely the case with Villa as this weekend just showed.

[SaddVillan]

Re The Athletic's article, Durán deserved a paragraph of analysis plus Sanson being sold for a "nominal" fee is lazy research, we got £4m for him, didn't we?

Sanson transfer fee reported as €4m = £3.3m.

Re the lack of discussion about Duran, if it had discussed him, then for balance it would also have had to have covered Carlos's non-move to Fulham as well as the rumours about Cash and Bogarde.

The article was a review of actual comings and goings and not might have beens.

Furthermore, the original story didn't include the departure of Dendoncker- presumably because it was written before his move was confirmed. I added it at the bottom of the list for completeness.

[Chris Smith]

It is no wonder the two Juventus lads went out on loan. WE could not just keep stock piling players - we are not the mad house that is Chelsea

Plus SUE likes a tighter, compact squad

Would it not have made more sense to keep at least Barrenechea around until January? I don't think we'll see Kamara on the pitch until getting towards Christmas going off usual Villa bad injury timelines, and there's no guarantee Mings will be back at anything like his previous level either. And as for everybody being fit, that's very rarely the case with Villa as this weekend just showed.

The counter arguments to that are that by going out on loan they play games rather than 5 minutes here and there which helps us in the long term and they don’t get bored and start agitating for a transfer due to lack of involvement.

[Dave]

It is no wonder the two Juventus lads went out on loan. WE could not just keep stock piling players - we are not the mad house that is Chelsea

Plus SUE likes a tighter, compact squad

Would it not have made more sense to keep at least Barrenechea around until January? I don't think we'll see Kamara on the pitch until getting towards Christmas going off usual Villa bad injury timelines, and there's no guarantee Mings will be back at anything like his previous level either. And as for everybody being fit, that's very rarely the case with Villa as this weekend just showed.

The counter arguments to that are that by going out on loan they play games rather than 5 minutes here and there which helps us in the long term and they don’t get bored and start agitating for a transfer due to lack of involvement.

It's one of those that can only really be judged in January. If we lose all of Onana, Tielemans and Barkley over the next month and Kamara isn't back until January, then it will have been a terrible decision to loan him out.

If we don't lose those players and Kamara is back on the pitch in November, and Barrenechea plays regularly for Valencia then it will have been a good decision.

My gut feeling though that if they weren't expecting to see Kamara within the next couple of months then we probably wouldn't have done it.

[brontebilly]

From The Athletic - A bit lengthy  but a pretty fair summary of what we did, and why

What is their strongest XI now the window is shut?
Emiliano Martinez; Cash, Konsa, Torres, Maatsen; Kamara, Onana; Bailey, John McGinn, Rogers; Watkins.

Up for debate, but I'm not sure I quite agree with this.  Much as I like both Kamara and Onana, I think our strongest team must have a more progressive passive alongside one of them - for now Tielemans is doing a great job.

Otherwise I think I agree.  McGinn vs a fit Ramsey may become debatable, but SJM is a talisman for us and needs to start.

Ive noticed Onana doesnt get all that involved in general play. He's tidy and knows his limitations by passing it quickly. Kamara has a lot more in his locker technically but wouldnt have the power Onana has when he breaks from midfield or in both boxes. It might take time for Kamara to get back fully fit, last thing we need is another Ramsey situation from last season. Tielemans has started well and surprised me so far.

McGinn isnt suited to the left, he hasnt the pace to go around the outside and his right foot is more for standing on. I think Ramsey automatically comes back in there. I prefer McGinn cutting in on the right, challenging Bailey. Good to have options. McGinn probably an option at 10 too though from memory he hasnt impressed there for us really.

Im a bit surprised Buendia hasnt seen a minute of action yet. Emery likes to include players on the bench even if they are miles off being fully fit, like with Torres last season so maybe there's an element of that. Could have easily given him 10 mins v Arsenal with the game done and the way Rogers played the last day, Buendia certainly couldnt have been any worse.

[Dogtanian]

The Athletic rank us as having the sixth best window;

https://www.nytimes.com/athletic/5735669/2024/09/03/premier-league-clubs-transfer-window-ranking/