2024 Summer Transfer Window. The Verdict.

[kippaxvilla2]

Isn’t it just typical of the villa to finally reach the champions league against all of the odds only not to be able to go mad in the transfer Martin to make something of it.  In theory at least.

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Isn’t it just typical of the villa to finally reach the champions league against all of the odds only not to be able to go mad in the transfer Martin to make something of it.  In theory at least.

I don't think Risso replacing Monchi in theory or in practice would be a good idea.

[kippaxvilla2]

Isn’t it just typical of the villa to finally reach the champions league against all of the odds only not to be able to go mad in the transfer Martin to make something of it.  In theory at least.

I don't think Risso replacing Monchi in theory or in practice would be a good idea.

Schoolboy error no recovering from that.

[Risso]

Isn’t it just typical of the villa to finally reach the champions league against all of the odds only not to be able to go mad in the transfer Martin to make something of it.  In theory at least.

I don't think Risso replacing Monchi in theory or in practice would be a good idea.

I’ve got miles more hair. But don’t speak Spanish, so swings and roundabouts.

[tomd2103]

It's hard to make a full assessment without knowing the full extent of the financial constraints we were operating under.  It does feel like we have left ourselves weak in a couple of areas, but it may have been the case that we needed to ship some more out before we could bring others in.

[brontebilly]

I would also add that I don't think we have been mugged by Juventus. Those two boys have gone to a high standard of club on loan, which can hopefully help them kick on but Emri obviously doesn't think they are ready yet so it's a good move for all.

For starters, they aren't the most corrupt club in Europe for nothing. If you can ignore balance sheet trickery, we have sold them one of the best midfielders in the PL and their two makeweights have been sent out on loan without kicking a ball for us. At least Dick Turpin wore a mask.

On the rest, our hands were severely tied by FFP and ahead of the CL that's dispiriting. Failing to replace Carlos is a big issue, we are already in trouble at the back with Cash and Mings injured. I like the early signs from Maatsen, should be a big improvement on the Moreno from last season. Onana doesn't have Luiz playmaking skills but his presence alone gives us different options now. Especially with Rogers, nobody is knocking those two about. I don't rate Barkley one iota, think that was the strangest signing in years considering his previous history with us. Despite a good start, I'm sceptical about Tielemans ability to perform consistently in a 2, to the levels Luiz did under Emery. Let's see.

Get Ollie fully fit, matched up with likes of Rogers, Ramsey, Bailey, Duran etc and we are still top 6 strong anyway. Maybe higher again if likes of Mings particularly, Kamara and Buendia get back fully fit. But as it stands centre mid and centre back Id worry about us.

[Rigadon]

I doubt we'll ever have a thread like this which doesn't include a load of people moaning that we needed 1 or 2 more, or that we were risking things on 1-2 key players not getting injured, or that the person overseeing it is shit at their job.

For me we've got to the end of the window with 2 players in every position who either got us into the champions league or who have experience in the champions league, we have a good number of young players out on loan getting important experience. We have looked at the glaring weakness in the squad from last season and added someone in midfield to make us better at set pieces at either end, who offers better aerial coverage in front of the defence and who adds a huge amount of power into what was previously a technical but small group of players. We've also added 2 young fullbacks who look like they're will fit in perfectly with how we want to play.

All of that given to one of the best managers around who has already improved almost every player at the club and who is known for liking a slightly smaller squad with a few versatile players to cover the gaps.

If we added a Geertruida or someone similar in place of Carlos and if we could've got a versatile forward I'd have bene happier but both would've bene minor improvements rather than filling huge and obvious gaps. As such the window is a solid B for me and is evolution not revolution, which I'm always in favour of.

Are people 'moaning', or simply taking part in a discussion?  This is subjective stuff you understand?

Do you understand that my post was my subjective opinion?

Yep, it’s the way you made it that I was referring to.

[RamboandBruno]

I would also add that I don't think we have been mugged by Juventus. Those two boys have gone to a high standard of club on loan, which can hopefully help them kick on but Emri obviously doesn't think they are ready yet so it's a good move for all.

For starters, they aren't the most corrupt club in Europe for nothing. If you can ignore balance sheet trickery, we have sold them one of the best midfielders in the PL and their two makeweights have been sent out on loan without kicking a ball for us. At least Dick Turpin wore a mask.

On the rest, our hands were severely tied by FFP and ahead of the CL that's dispiriting. Failing to replace Carlos is a big issue, we are already in trouble at the back with Cash and Mings injured. I like the early signs from Maatsen, should be a big improvement on the Moreno from last season. Onana doesn't have Luiz playmaking skills but his presence alone gives us different options now. Especially with Rogers, nobody is knocking those two about. I don't rate Barkley one iota, think that was the strangest signing in years considering his previous history with us. Despite a good start, I'm sceptical about Tielemans ability to perform consistently in a 2, to the levels Luiz did under Emery. Let's see.

Get Ollie fully fit, matched up with likes of Rogers, Ramsey, Bailey, Duran etc and we are still top 6 strong anyway. Maybe higher again if likes of Mings particularly, Kamara and Buendia get back fully fit. But as it stands centre mid and centre back Id worry about us.

Good summary. The only thing I’d add, is the Emery factor, in terms of him being in the top drawer category, so we have a head start on most clubs because of that.

[wince]

See we are predicting top 6 or 7. Isn’t that a massive backwards step from last season or is the thoughts that we overachieved in getting to the CL? I do think we won’t be at the dizzying heights of last season but don’t see what choice we had with PSR. Will have to wait and see I suppose

[N'ZMAV]

Isn’t it just typical of the villa to finally reach the champions league against all of the odds only not to be able to go mad in the transfer Martin to make something of it.  In theory at least.

O'Neill?

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I'm predicting 4th because our first XI is just as strong and our squad is stronger. Plus we have Emery and short of the 115 Club  nobody in Europe can say they have better, never mind in this league.

Now time for some Oasis tickets, an hour of crippling training and then off to hammer those East Midlands mutants. If I've made any mistakes in my above analysis, it rests only in the folly of leaving petrol till the morning. Up the fucking Villa.

[Clark W Griswold]

I suppose if you look at the 26 player squad list on the OS and also consider that we may not try to play 3 forwards all of the time, depending on Unai’s tactics then we look pretty strong. I’d be happier if Mings and Kamara come back soon and come back strong though.

[Villan82]

As Villa fans, we watched what Chelsea did in 2003 and what Man City did in 2008. They leapfrogged us and brought in mega stars.  All through that time we were told that Champions League was the golden ticket. Then, when we finally make it through very hard graft we see that the goalposts have shifted and we can't do what those two clubs did. It is unfair on us but that's the rules. We have to cut our cloth.

In that context, we have done well this window. We still have Martinez on a new contract, we still have Watkins, we still have Konsa, Pau and Bailey. We have added Onana who is a different player to Luiz. Morgan Rogers came in January and is fast becoming one of our star players. We have Mings, Buendia and Kamara to come back into the squad and cross all our fingers they come back at a similar level to when they got injured. Ramsey looks like he is back at his best after more or less missing a season

My one gripe is left back. I know Maatsen is quality but we had two good left backs. If money was tight I would have gone for a right back or a number 10.

If you want to feel better about our window just look at the windows Newcastle and Spurs had

[Dick Edwards]

We now have the strongest squad of players we've ever had in my lifetime, and that's including the league and European Cup ones. When you consider where we were as recently as two years ago our squad building progress has been remarkable. Yes, it would have been great to have got in another defender but our reserve right back now is a current international and our fourth choice centre half is a player of vast European experience. PSR constraints are a reality we have to accept but the future has never been brighter. We will strengthen further next summer, guided by the best manager/coach we could only have dreamed of having two years ago, and backed by the most supportive owners who will do as much as they are allowed to do. We have so much to look forward to now. Just sit back and enjoy the ride.

[aev]

C+ for me.

Don’t get the bringing in of players to loan out again, unless they had to also go for financial compliance.

The squad is stronger, but that is more the return of previously injured players.

Thank god we have an elite manager.