Amadou Onana

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He may well have been goosed because of Ramadan. The idea of playing competitive sport over 7 hours since your last gram of carb, without any caffeine or water is pretty mental. It being at a professional level makes it more barmy.

[brontebilly]

Hologram - replicated his displays v Salzburg and Brighton yesterday.

[AV82EC]

He may well have been goosed because of Ramadan. The idea of playing competitive sport over 7 hours since your last gram of carb, without any caffeine or water is pretty mental. It being at a professional level makes it more barmy.

Is he a practising Muslim Ads?

[Rudy Can't Fail]

He may well have been goosed because of Ramadan. The idea of playing competitive sport over 7 hours since your last gram of carb, without any caffeine or water is pretty mental. It being at a professional level makes it more barmy.

That would explain yesterday but not the other games since he came back from injury. The most frustrating thing is he was absolutely superb before his injury. At least he's stopped rolling around on the ground every time a player goes near him. Somebody has obviously had a word.

[ChicagoLion]

We really needed him to step up.
Sadly he hasn’t.

[john e]

We really needed him to step up with the three best midfielders all out, but he's had little impact. He seems to reserve his better performances against the better sides, although that's typically been with the benefit of the three best midfielders also playing.

I agree with this
He plays better against better sides because he stops them playing, he’s a bit of a spoiler and a physical presence.
He breaks up playing and such like

But he’s not a very good technical player and has not got close control of the ball hasn’t got a great range of passing ability like Tielemans, so he comes into his own against teams with better technical players because he can stop them doing their thing

Against the likes of Leeds he just becomes one of the same as what they’ve got, what you need to break teams like Leeds and Everton etc down are better football players like Barclay
The biggest myth in football is you need a strong physical presence to stop a strong physical presence, a good footballer comfortable on the ball that can read the game will always win that battle

[john2710]

Onana has the same syndrome as Diego Carlos had. Plays brilliant in 5-6 games a season, against the top sides & shite against the rest.

He's been brilliant on occasions but anonymous most of the time. If someone wants to take him off our hands I think we'd let him go.

We can't afford to carry players.

[Rudy Can't Fail]

The biggest myth in football is you need a strong physical presence to stop a strong physical presence, a good footballer comfortable on the ball that can read the game will always win that battle

Vitinha, arguably the best midfielder in the world, an absolute joy to watch, looks like an upside down mop, all 64 kilos of him yet understood very early in his career he was never going to have the physical side to his game so adjusted to using skill.

Apart from the couple of games before his injury where Onana was absolutely superb, he gives me the impression he thinks he's already world class when his performances have been ordinary at best, often just going through the motions. I'm tired of saying but he needs discipline and instruction, sticking to his strengths and leave the fancy stuff to those better qualified. He still can't shake off his suicide passes too -just pass the fooking ball to a teammate when they have time to move with the ball, not leaving it so late it turns into a 50/50.

All that said, we don't know if he has been rushed back from injury, his recent performances look like it but when you've seen him this season perform so well he really frustrates right now.

[brontebilly]

We really needed him to step up with the three best midfielders all out, but he's had little impact. He seems to reserve his better performances against the better sides, although that's typically been with the benefit of the three best midfielders also playing.

I agree with this
He plays better against better sides because he stops them playing, he’s a bit of a spoiler and a physical presence.
He breaks up playing and such like

But he’s not a very good technical player and has not got close control of the ball hasn’t got a great range of passing ability like Tielemans, so he comes into his own against teams with better technical players because he can stop them doing their thing

Against the likes of Leeds he just becomes one of the same as what they’ve got, what you need to break teams like Leeds and Everton etc down are better football players like Barclay
The biggest myth in football is you need a strong physical presence to stop a strong physical presence, a good footballer comfortable on the ball that can read the game will always win that battle

He wasn't even spoiling v Leeds. Didn't screen Konsa at all when it was obvious DCL was bullying him. Ampadu dictating things in midfield, make it your mission to stop him playing like he did with Joelinton at Newcastle. Early in the second half it was like he disappeared completely. I can hardly remember him winning a tackle or header even. Emery obviously thought the same and hooked him early again. His technical limitations are the reason I've never been keen on him but without the ball he has been non existent in recent games.

Dropping him might be the obvious call but Bogarde struggled v Brentford and Everton.

[john e]

Onana has the same syndrome as Diego Carlos had. Plays brilliant in 5-6 games a season, against the top sides & shite against the rest.

He's been brilliant on occasions but anonymous most of the time. If someone wants to take him off our hands I think we'd let him go.

We can't afford to carry players.

That’s because against teams like Man city Arsenal Liverpool he can be effective by stopping their midfield playing and very often and turning out to be the best player in the team on the day

Against Leeds, Everton, Burnley, and the likes he’s not effective
Take wolves on Saturday he’ll be up against their cloggers. It’ll be Alardyce versus Pulis in the midfield and the game will be shit as always
Play your better technical players against wolves you’ll get a better result. That’s if we’ve got any left of course

It’s the same for Ming’s versus Torres There’s plenty on here think Mings is a better player because they’re stuck in the dark ages, typical British tactics preferring physicality over a footballer, it’s ingrained in our psyche, better quality footballers will always produce better results
Yes, use the physical players against better teams no problem but against wolves on Saturday for instance you’ve got to play your way around them. You’re never gonna play through them with brute force
Don’t let them drag us down to their level which often happens

Anyway I can’t keep educating you all like this at some point you’re all gonna have to catch up

[Ian.]

Or, he’s a young lad learning his craft in a very difficult role?

[adrenachrome]

Onana has the same syndrome as Diego Carlos had. Plays brilliant in 5-6 games a season, against the top sides & shite against the rest.

He's been brilliant on occasions but anonymous most of the time. If someone wants to take him off our hands I think we'd let him go.

We can't afford to carry players.

That’s because against teams like Man city Arsenal Liverpool he can be effective by stopping their midfield playing and very often and turning out to be the best player in the team on the day

Against Leeds, Everton, Burnley, and the likes he’s not effective
Take wolves on Saturday he’ll be up against their cloggers. It’ll be Alardyce versus Pulis in the midfield and the game will be shit as always
Play your better technical players against wolves you’ll get a better result. That’s if we’ve got any left of course

It’s the same for Ming’s versus Torres There’s plenty on here think Mings is a better player because they’re stuck in the dark ages, typical British tactics preferring physicality over a footballer, it’s ingrained in our psyche, better quality footballers will always produce better results
Yes, use the physical players against better teams no problem but against wolves on Saturday for instance you’ve got to play your way around them. You’re never gonna play through them with brute force
Don’t let them drag us down to their level which often happens

Anyway I can’t keep educating you all like this at some point you’re all gonna have to catch up

If you think we are playing Wolves on Saturday, you are out of the loop and probably on the pipe.

[ChicagoLion]

Onana has the same syndrome as Diego Carlos had. Plays brilliant in 5-6 games a season, against the top sides & shite against the rest.

He's been brilliant on occasions but anonymous most of the time. If someone wants to take him off our hands I think we'd let him go.

We can't afford to carry players.

That’s because against teams like Man city Arsenal Liverpool he can be effective by stopping their midfield playing and very often and turning out to be the best player in the team on the day

Against Leeds, Everton, Burnley, and the likes he’s not effective
Take wolves on Saturday he’ll be up against their cloggers. It’ll be Alardyce versus Pulis in the midfield and the game will be shit as always
Play your better technical players against wolves you’ll get a better result. That’s if we’ve got any left of course

It’s the same for Ming’s versus Torres There’s plenty on here think Mings is a better player because they’re stuck in the dark ages, typical British tactics preferring physicality over a footballer, it’s ingrained in our psyche, better quality footballers will always produce better results
Yes, use the physical players against better teams no problem but against wolves on Saturday for instance you’ve got to play your way around them. You’re never gonna play through them with brute force
Don’t let them drag us down to their level which often happens

Anyway I can’t keep educating you all like this at some point you’re all gonna have to catch up

Regarding your Mings v Torres comment, it is just reality that against certain teams one loss of a physical battle in defence is often match defining.

[PaulWinch again]

It’s probably not. It might seem like that, but on the flip side how inert are we as an attacking force when we can’t play out from the back. It’s probably no less match defining to lose your attacking shape - that’s not all Mings vs Torres, but it’s a big contributing factor.

[Dante Lavelli]

My solution is to add Bogarde into midfield and let Doug (and Onana to an extent) play with more freedom. I think we need to win the midfield battle first so having three in there should help.

The fact Brendia, Sancho and Bailey have been so inconsistent just supports the swap in my opinion.