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Offline brontebilly

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Re: Amadou Onana
« Reply #210 on: July 19, 2024, 04:17:37 PM »
It's nonsense to expect attacking midfielders to drop in deep and not have the partner pick up the slack.

We had nobody in the squad to replace Kamara, and it showed. We also had nobody to replace Luiz, and it showed.

Tielemans, McGinn? Tielemans has got everything that Luiz has in his game, and more.

Take a read through some of your posts on Tielemans last season, the world's oldest 26 year old? He was rubbish for a lot of the season, when Luiz was carrying our midfield. There's a reason Emery pushed him higher up the pitch, he doesn't have the legs to play a midfield two.

Instead of Luiz and Kamara, given he seems like he will be out for most of the season, we have got in Ross Barkley, who bombed spectacularly with us before, and Onana who sat a lot on Everton's bench.  Unless Emery is truly a magician that is a massive downgrade in quality. Luiz/Kamara as a pair were simply outstanding.

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Re: Amadou Onana
« Reply #211 on: July 19, 2024, 04:23:28 PM »
It's nonsense to expect attacking midfielders to drop in deep and not have the partner pick up the slack.

We had nobody in the squad to replace Kamara, and it showed. We also had nobody to replace Luiz, and it showed.

Tielemans, McGinn? Tielemans has got everything that Luiz has in his game, and more.

Take a read through some of your posts on Tielemans last season, the world's oldest 26 year old? He was rubbish for a lot of the season, when Luiz was carrying our midfield. There's a reason Emery pushed him higher up the pitch, he doesn't have the legs to play a midfield two.

Instead of Luiz and Kamara, given he seems like he will be out for most of the season, we have got in Ross Barkley, who bombed spectacularly with us before, and Onana who sat a lot on Everton's bench.  Unless Emery is truly a magician that is a massive downgrade in quality. Luiz/Kamara as a pair were simply outstanding.

Tielemans is a different player to Luiz, does the deep-lying stuff much less well, is happier further forward. Luiz is more of a tempo-setter, a player type that I love, but when he was forced into the dirty-work role of Kamara while also being the guy who automatically would conduct the moves in the middle it was too much for him. As a partnership, however, they were tremendous.

Your scepticism about Onana, though, is just wilful at this stage, come on. He was Belgium's most reliable player in the Euros, and Everton's best player for most of the season. He's also a young player. This is a tremendous signing, and a probable upgrade.

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Re: Amadou Onana
« Reply #212 on: July 19, 2024, 04:35:33 PM »
Onana has the same ball winning qualities of Kamara and can play a range of passes like Luiz.  The more I think about it, the more I like the signing.

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Re: Amadou Onana
« Reply #213 on: July 19, 2024, 04:37:01 PM »
Onana has the same ball winning qualities of Kamara and can play a range of passes like Luiz.  The more I think about it, the more I like the signing.

The sort of flexibility that Emery loves!

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Re: Amadou Onana
« Reply #214 on: July 19, 2024, 04:37:39 PM »
Onana has the same ball winning qualities of Kamara and can play a range of passes like Luiz.  The more I think about it, the more I like the signing.

I am very excited about the deal...

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Re: Amadou Onana
« Reply #215 on: July 19, 2024, 04:40:30 PM »
Onana has the same ball winning qualities of Kamara and can play a range of passes like Luiz.  The more I think about it, the more I like the signing.

I am very excited about the deal...

I'm so excited, I'm already an Onanist.

Offline edgysatsuma89

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Re: Amadou Onana
« Reply #216 on: July 19, 2024, 05:04:01 PM »
It's nonsense to expect attacking midfielders to drop in deep and not have the partner pick up the slack.

We had nobody in the squad to replace Kamara, and it showed. We also had nobody to replace Luiz, and it showed.

Tielemans, McGinn? Tielemans has got everything that Luiz has in his game, and more.

Take a read through some of your posts on Tielemans last season, the world's oldest 26 year old? He was rubbish for a lot of the season, when Luiz was carrying our midfield. There's a reason Emery pushed him higher up the pitch, he doesn't have the legs to play a midfield two.

Instead of Luiz and Kamara, given he seems like he will be out for most of the season, we have got in Ross Barkley, who bombed spectacularly with us before, and Onana who sat a lot on Everton's bench.  Unless Emery is truly a magician that is a massive downgrade in quality. Luiz/Kamara as a pair were simply outstanding.

Tielemans is a different player to Luiz, does the deep-lying stuff much less well, is happier further forward. Luiz is more of a tempo-setter, a player type that I love, but when he was forced into the dirty-work role of Kamara while also being the guy who automatically would conduct the moves in the middle it was too much for him. As a partnership, however, they were tremendous.


I remember Tielemans playing in front of 2 CM's and much preferring it. Don't think it happened much though due to injuries.

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Re: Amadou Onana
« Reply #217 on: July 19, 2024, 07:58:10 PM »
The commentators would have had a nightmare.

"The ball is with Onana, he plays it to Onana who passes it back to Onana. Oh Onana has been tackled, the attacker is bearing down on Onana whilst Onana is trying to get back. And it's a goal, Onana didn't save it, although it seems to have taken a wicked deflection off Onana, hit the bar, hit Onana on the back and went over the line, despite Onana trying to get back to prevent it."
Are you ok?

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Re: Amadou Onana
« Reply #218 on: July 19, 2024, 08:14:52 PM »
Onana has the same ball winning qualities of Kamara and can play a range of passes like Luiz.  The more I think about it, the more I like the signing.

I am very excited about the deal...

I'm so excited, I'm already an Onanist.

Yep I’m wanking over it to.

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Re: Amadou Onana
« Reply #219 on: July 19, 2024, 08:28:44 PM »
It's nonsense to expect attacking midfielders to drop in deep and not have the partner pick up the slack.

We had nobody in the squad to replace Kamara, and it showed. We also had nobody to replace Luiz, and it showed.

Tielemans, McGinn? Tielemans has got everything that Luiz has in his game, and more.

Take a read through some of your posts on Tielemans last season, the world's oldest 26 year old? He was rubbish for a lot of the season, when Luiz was carrying our midfield. There's a reason Emery pushed him higher up the pitch, he doesn't have the legs to play a midfield two.

Instead of Luiz and Kamara, given he seems like he will be out for most of the season, we have got in Ross Barkley, who bombed spectacularly with us before, and Onana who sat a lot on Everton's bench.  Unless Emery is truly a magician that is a massive downgrade in quality. Luiz/Kamara as a pair were simply outstanding.

Tielemans is a different player to Luiz, does the deep-lying stuff much less well, is happier further forward. Luiz is more of a tempo-setter, a player type that I love, but when he was forced into the dirty-work role of Kamara while also being the guy who automatically would conduct the moves in the middle it was too much for him. As a partnership, however, they were tremendous.

Your scepticism about Onana, though, is just wilful at this stage, come on. He was Belgium's most reliable player in the Euros, and Everton's best player for most of the season. He's also a young player. This is a tremendous signing, and a probable upgrade.

Everton fans are reportedly delighted to be getting shot of him for a big chunk of cash. But that could be just churlishness about a player of theirs being courted by a better team

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Re: Amadou Onana
« Reply #220 on: July 19, 2024, 08:33:52 PM »
Villa fans wanted shot of most of our players during the Gerrard days and certainly at Craven Cottage.

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Re: Amadou Onana
« Reply #221 on: July 19, 2024, 08:40:33 PM »
Everton fans are reportedly delighted to be getting shot of him for a big chunk of cash. But that could be just churlishness about a player of theirs being courted by a better team

My best mate/business partner is a massive Everton fan, and is generally quite a good judge of a player. He reckons Onana is going to be brilliant for us, playing under one of the world's best managers in Unai, rather than a relic like Dyche.

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Re: Amadou Onana
« Reply #222 on: July 19, 2024, 08:50:02 PM »
I think any fan tries to find the positives in a negative departure see Diaby thread

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Re: Amadou Onana
« Reply #223 on: July 19, 2024, 09:05:21 PM »
Everton fans are reportedly delighted to be getting shot of him for a big chunk of cash. But that could be just churlishness about a player of theirs being courted by a better team

My best mate/business partner is a massive Everton fan, and is generally quite a good judge of a player. He reckons Onana is going to be brilliant for us, playing under one of the world's best managers in Unai, rather than a relic like Dyche.

I think there's a lot to that. Dyche is meat and potatoes, which is all very well for a club like Burnley whose ambition doesn't seriously extend beyond getting into and staying in the Prem. But flair players like Onana are always going to struggle to produce their best under a regime like that

Offline rougegorge

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Re: Amadou Onana
« Reply #224 on: July 19, 2024, 09:25:44 PM »
Everton fans are reportedly delighted to be getting shot of him for a big chunk of cash. But that could be just churlishness about a player of theirs being courted by a better team

My best mate/business partner is a massive Everton fan, and is generally quite a good judge of a player. He reckons Onana is going to be brilliant for us, playing under one of the world's best managers in Unai, rather than a relic like Dyche.

I think there's a lot to that. Dyche is meat and potatoes, which is all very well for a club like Burnley whose ambition doesn't seriously extend beyond getting into and staying in the Prem. But flair players like Onana are always going to struggle to produce their best under a regime like that
I think if we were Everton fans, it wouldn't be a surprise if a good number of us would feel the same as them.

Although the system and style can stifle, good players still stand out and I don't think he didn't consistently did that.

However,  there must be something in him to have generated interest from not just us, but other clubs. I trust that Unai can bring out the best in him as he has certainly improved players for us.

 


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