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Author Topic: Samuel Iling Junior - now on loan at Middlesbrough  (Read 42064 times)

Offline Tokyo Sexwhale

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Re: Samuel Iling Junior - Signed
« Reply #195 on: August 20, 2024, 03:26:28 PM »
I think Iling-Junior is currently our third or fourth choice left back and third or fourth choice left winger/left midfielder.  Injuries and suspensions aside, I can't see how he gets on the bench in a PL game, and might not make the cut for the CL squad.  We're also not in the early round of the League Cup, so we can't even give him a run out there against a L2 side.

A loan deal seems sensible, especially if we can get him into another PL club.

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Re: Samuel Iling Junior - Signed
« Reply #196 on: August 20, 2024, 03:30:45 PM »
20 goals from Leeds as an auxiliary left-sided player would be some going!

Plus don't they have their want-away Willy Gnonto playing there?

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Re: Samuel Iling Junior - Signed
« Reply #197 on: August 20, 2024, 03:42:36 PM »
20 goals from Leeds as an auxiliary left-sided player would be some going!

Plus don't they have their want-away Willy Gnonto playing there?

I'm guessing they'd see him as a replacement for Summerville, who got 21 goals from the left-wing for them last season.

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Re: Samuel Iling Junior - Signed
« Reply #198 on: August 20, 2024, 06:18:55 PM »
I think Iling-Junior is currently our third or fourth choice left back and third or fourth choice left winger/left midfielder.  Injuries and suspensions aside, I can't see how he gets on the bench in a PL game, and might not make the cut for the CL squad.  We're also not in the early round of the League Cup, so we can't even give him a run out there against a L2 side.

A loan deal seems sensible, especially if we can get him into another PL club.

This my view too. Happy to loan him out till Jan. and then reassess based on his form/any injuries we may have.

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« Reply #199 on: August 20, 2024, 08:34:23 PM »
I hope the rumours of a loan are not true.  Its going to be a long season we will need him

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Re: Samuel Iling Junior - Signed
« Reply #200 on: August 20, 2024, 08:58:28 PM »
I can imagine that having made 24 league appearances for Juventus last season, he might be a little disappointed not to make the matchday squad against West Ham. Unfortunately for him, there are a lot of bodies between him and the first team at the moment.

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Re: Samuel Iling Junior - Signed
« Reply #201 on: August 20, 2024, 08:59:38 PM »
I guess the stats at Juventus are a bit misleading as he only started 5 league games last season, so going out on loan may be the best thing, and he is very young.

I wonder if Barrenechea may go on loan as well. Now he was a regular in Serie A last season, albeit at Frosinone.

I reckon we will keep the Barron around as a backup to Onana. Kamara is still a while away, and we need the backup at least till the next transfer window when we can loan him out if necessary.

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Re: Samuel Iling Junior - Signed
« Reply #202 on: August 20, 2024, 09:03:20 PM »
I guess the stats at Juventus are a bit misleading as he only started 5 league games last season, so going out on loan may be the best thing, and he is very young.

I wonder if Barrenechea may go on loan as well. Now he was a regular in Serie A last season, albeit at Frosinone.

I reckon we will keep the Barron around as a backup to Onana. Kamara is still a while away, and we need the backup at least till the next transfer window when we can loan him out if necessary.

Yeah, I'd keep Chea Guevara around as well.

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« Reply #203 on: August 20, 2024, 09:16:39 PM »
It does seem odd out of all the players we could have got from juve for the luiz deal both could be loaned out potentially.

Im not in favour of loaning either him or enzo

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Re: Samuel Iling Junior - Signed
« Reply #204 on: August 20, 2024, 09:28:27 PM »
Odd, this.

Esp we're letting Moreno go as well.

Two rookies and a bag of pork scratchings for Douglas Luiz never looked a great deal. But the hope was that the likes of Illing, the Baron and Dobbin would come in and give us more from the bench when we get to the busy phases of the season. Now we're punting two of those out on loan.

We all know how stretched we were in April/May last season. Not sure why we'd chance repeating that.

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« Reply #205 on: August 20, 2024, 09:52:26 PM »
Odd, this.

Esp we're letting Moreno go as well.

Two rookies and a bag of pork scratchings for Douglas Luiz never looked a great deal. But the hope was that the likes of Illing, the Baron and Dobbin would come in and give us more from the bench when we get to the busy phases of the season. Now we're punting two of those out on loan.

We all know how stretched we were in April/May last season. Not sure why we'd chance repeating that.

Just hope its paper talk. This year ia going ti be even moew demanding than last year. Both should be staying here

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Re: Samuel Iling Junior - Signed
« Reply #206 on: August 20, 2024, 10:02:14 PM »
The Premier League is much more physical than Serie A, so I wonder if Unai is sending him out on loan, partly to get minutes, but mostly to toughen him up a bit.  Be good if he stayed in the Prem but think he will go to a top Championship side.  Hopefully a recall for January inserted, just in case we need him.

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Re: Samuel Iling Junior - Signed
« Reply #207 on: August 20, 2024, 10:09:44 PM »
I think Emery gave everyone a fair shot in preseason and those who impressed, like Nedeljkovic, will be given their chances now the league has started. If Iling-Junior is still some way off the first team, and a loan deal might free up some wages (combined with Moreno) for someone else to come in, then it's not a bad idea.

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Re: Samuel Iling Junior - Signed
« Reply #208 on: August 20, 2024, 11:39:07 PM »
We showed interest in him last January so I don't think it was a Dobben-style purely for PSR type of deal.

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Re: Samuel Iling Junior - Signed
« Reply #209 on: August 21, 2024, 09:46:15 AM »
The Premier League is much more physical than Serie A, so I wonder if Unai is sending him out on loan, partly to get minutes, but mostly to toughen him up a bit.  Be good if he stayed in the Prem but think he will go to a top Championship side.  Hopefully a recall for January inserted, just in case we need him.

I don't see any point in sending him out to perform in the Championship.

He has already proven that he can play at a higher level than the Championship & if we send him out to a Prem side, he is going to get a taste of both the speed & physicality that he will be facing in the Prem before he comes back to us.

Apart from him getting more games at a standard lower than he is already used to, which will do nothing for his development, there is no upside to him going on loan to a Championship side.

If the only option is a Championship club, I would rather keep him here & play him in the League Cup.

 


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