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Re: Aston Villa 3-3 Liverpool Post Match breather
« Reply #375 on: May 14, 2024, 01:58:46 PM »
He had undoubted ability but acheived the square root of fuck all and played for bang average teams. Yet he's lauded as England's answer to Pele.

Exactly this. He was undoubtedly talented, but the best I can say about him is he had a lot of unfulfilled potential. He just happened to be a ball-carrying midfielder in an era when people in that position were mainly employed to have the ball fly over their heads.

He was rated by his peers though, Gordon Cowans basically called me an idiot to my face for suggesting he was the better player.


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Re: Aston Villa 3-3 Liverpool Post Match breather
« Reply #376 on: May 14, 2024, 02:03:26 PM »
Gascoigne was brilliant and a pleasure to watch. Unfortunately, he was also exceedingly dim and he didn't have good people around him, looking after him, quite the opposite in fact. He made lots of bad choices especially with his career, but there have been lots of very good players who have won fuck all, Harry Kane for example.

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Re: Aston Villa 3-3 Liverpool Post Match breather
« Reply #377 on: May 14, 2024, 02:03:59 PM »
Yeah, he was different from them.

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Re: Aston Villa 3-3 Liverpool Post Match breather
« Reply #378 on: May 14, 2024, 02:04:36 PM »
"We all agree, that Platty is better than Gascoigne"

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Re: Aston Villa 3-3 Liverpool Post Match breather
« Reply #379 on: May 14, 2024, 02:05:54 PM »
But then (and correct me if I'm wrong) but Cowans always came across as humble about what he could do. Which is partly why he was never seen as one of the best players where others wallowed in the publicity.

Although I would also state that the amount of other teams football seen when Gascoigne was at his pomp wasn't much, so you either judged players with how they played for you, or on the occasional live TV  match. Of course it helped if you were also based in the same city as some national press was based for promotion as well.

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Re: Aston Villa 3-3 Liverpool Post Match breather
« Reply #380 on: May 14, 2024, 02:12:24 PM »
Three midfielders put on, and their midfield totally disappeared. What a trick that was from Klopp.
As I said earlier Klopp said he had to do that because Billa were dominating. He under estimated the genius of Unai.

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Re: Aston Villa 3-3 Liverpool Post Match breather
« Reply #381 on: May 14, 2024, 02:13:00 PM »
Butch Wilkins was the most overrated player in history, God rest his soul

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Re: Aston Villa 3-3 Liverpool Post Match breather
« Reply #382 on: May 14, 2024, 02:13:58 PM »
Three midfielders put on, and their midfield totally disappeared. What a trick that was from Klopp.
As I said earlier Klopp said he had to do that because Billa were dominating. He under estimated the genius of Unai.

Klopp sends his midfield onto the pitch.


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Re: Aston Villa 3-3 Liverpool Post Match breather
« Reply #383 on: May 14, 2024, 02:16:52 PM »
Three midfielders put on, and their midfield totally disappeared. What a trick that was from Klopp.

None of them did the dirty, niggly shit that Endo, Elliott and Diaz had been up to which ment we suddenly had time to pick up the ball in the centre of the pitch and carry it. Before that we'd been relying on moving the ball and not letting them 'line us up'.

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Re: Aston Villa 3-3 Liverpool Post Match breather
« Reply #384 on: May 14, 2024, 02:25:10 PM »
"We all agree, that Platty is better than Gascoigne"
if Gascoigne had David Platts mentality he would have been better than Maradona.

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Re: Aston Villa 3-3 Liverpool Post Match breather
« Reply #385 on: May 14, 2024, 02:26:30 PM »
Gascoigne was brilliant and a pleasure to watch. Unfortunately, he was also exceedingly dim and he didn't have good people around him, looking after him, quite the opposite in fact. He made lots of bad choices especially with his career, but there have been lots of very good players who have won fuck all, Harry Kane for example.

I thought you were talking about an ex-player of ours until that last 6 words.

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Re: Aston Villa 3-3 Liverpool Post Match breather
« Reply #386 on: May 14, 2024, 02:27:14 PM »
"We all agree, that Platty is better than Gascoigne"
if Gascoigne had David Platts mentality he would have been better than Maradona.

The problem with that analysis is that Maradona had Maradona's mentality and he was still better than anyone who ever lived.

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Re: Aston Villa 3-3 Liverpool Post Match breather
« Reply #387 on: May 14, 2024, 02:28:12 PM »
Three midfielders put on, and their midfield totally disappeared. What a trick that was from Klopp.

None of them did the dirty, niggly shit that Endo, Elliott and Diaz had been up to were allowed to systematically do, encouraged by the referee who was a twat, which ment we suddenly had time to pick up the ball in the centre of the pitch and carry it. Before that we'd been relying on moving the ball and not letting them 'line us up'.

FTFY

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Re: Aston Villa 3-3 Liverpool Post Match breather
« Reply #388 on: May 14, 2024, 02:28:52 PM »
"We all agree, that Platty is better than Gascoigne"
if Gascoigne had David Platts mentality he would have been better than Maradona.

The problem with that analysis is that Maradona had Maradona's mentality and he was still better than anyone who ever lived.

Undoubtedly.

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Re: Aston Villa 3-3 Liverpool Post Match breather
« Reply #389 on: May 14, 2024, 02:30:03 PM »
Three midfielders put on, and their midfield totally disappeared. What a trick that was from Klopp.

None of them did the dirty, niggly shit that Endo, Elliott and Diaz had been up to were allowed to systematically do, encouraged by the referee who was a twat, which ment we suddenly had time to pick up the ball in the centre of the pitch and carry it. Before that we'd been relying on moving the ball and not letting them 'line us up'.

FTFY

Well yeah, fair comment.

 


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