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Re: Olympiacos v Villa Pre-match Thread
« Reply #240 on: May 08, 2024, 11:42:51 AM »
Because there is nothing to contest.

UEFA Secretary with direct links to Olympiacos

Corrupt referee appointed

You don't see this reeks of a set up?

No.

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Re: Olympiacos v Villa Pre-match Thread
« Reply #241 on: May 08, 2024, 11:47:47 AM »
It doesn't bother me really. If they wanted a dodgy ref they could have bought one with a spotless record, rather than one who has probably been under scrutiny now for most of his career.

I don't know the ins and outs of it, but from what I've read it seems like he was a young and inexperienced lad who was given cash to not kick up a fuss, and later realised the implications of it.

How many of us haven't had a situation at work as a youngster where you've gone along with or not argued with something that you felt wasn't right, but all the senior and more experienced people just cracked on with?

He’s a bent referee. He shouldn’t be anywhere near professional football.

Why? He never made any decisions which were dodgy in the match when he took the money to look the other way? He also gave evidence to the fact not knowing if he would have a career at the end of it. And in the 20 years since that incident, apart from one exasperated Bellingham tweet, there has not been one hint of dodginess.

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Re: Olympiacos v Villa Pre-match Thread
« Reply #242 on: May 08, 2024, 11:59:04 AM »
If the Ref is corrupt it will manifest itself during the game . Will be watching closely .

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Re: Olympiacos v Villa Pre-match Thread
« Reply #243 on: May 08, 2024, 12:15:37 PM »
If the Ref is corrupt it will manifest itself during the game . Will be watching closely .

I look forward to your final analysis being as you had plenty to say about the way Liverpool behaved when the VAR bollock was dropped.

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Re: Olympiacos v Villa Pre-match Thread
« Reply #244 on: May 08, 2024, 12:22:47 PM »
If the Ref is corrupt it will manifest itself during the game . Will be watching closely .
What will you do if you see actual manifestations of corruption Coops? Have a moan?

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Re: Olympiacos v Villa Pre-match Thread
« Reply #245 on: May 08, 2024, 12:30:50 PM »
It doesn't bother me really. If they wanted a dodgy ref they could have bought one with a spotless record, rather than one who has probably been under scrutiny now for most of his career.

I don't know the ins and outs of it, but from what I've read it seems like he was a young and inexperienced lad who was given cash to not kick up a fuss, and later realised the implications of it.

How many of us haven't had a situation at work as a youngster where you've gone along with or not argued with something that you felt wasn't right, but all the senior and more experienced people just cracked on with?

He’s a bent referee. He shouldn’t be anywhere near professional football.

Why? He never made any decisions which were dodgy in the match when he took the money to look the other way? He also gave evidence to the fact not knowing if he would have a career at the end of it. And in the 20 years since that incident, apart from one exasperated Bellingham tweet, there has not been one hint of dodginess.

He accepted a bribe. Guess integrity means different things to different people.

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Re: Olympiacos v Villa Pre-match Thread
« Reply #246 on: May 08, 2024, 12:32:52 PM »
He had enough integrity to dob himself in and accept the consequences and stop the actual match fixer continuing to referee.

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Re: Olympiacos v Villa Pre-match Thread
« Reply #247 on: May 08, 2024, 12:38:22 PM »
He had enough integrity to dob himself in and accept the consequences and stop the actual match fixer continuing to referee.

He took a bribe in his position as a referee.

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Re: Olympiacos v Villa Pre-match Thread
« Reply #248 on: May 08, 2024, 12:39:47 PM »
He had enough integrity to dob himself in and accept the consequences and stop the actual match fixer continuing to referee.

He took a bribe in his position as a referee.

Yes, you keep saying that. Why do you think the third time will miraculously change my opinion?

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Re: Olympiacos v Villa Pre-match Thread
« Reply #249 on: May 08, 2024, 12:41:39 PM »
He had enough integrity to dob himself in and accept the consequences and stop the actual match fixer continuing to referee.

He took a bribe in his position as a referee.

Yes, you keep saying that. Why do you think the third time will miraculously change my opinion?

You seem to fail to understand what a referee’s role is.

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Re: Olympiacos v Villa Pre-match Thread
« Reply #250 on: May 08, 2024, 12:42:57 PM »
He had enough integrity to dob himself in and accept the consequences and stop the actual match fixer continuing to referee.

He took a bribe in his position as a referee.

Yes, you keep saying that. Why do you think the third time will miraculously change my opinion?

You seem to fail to understand what a referee’s role is.

He was an assistant referee

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Re: Olympiacos v Villa Pre-match Thread
« Reply #251 on: May 08, 2024, 12:45:01 PM »
Is it to uphold justice and be the absolute paragon of integrity and virtue? No.

It's pretty much to make a decision so that a group of grown men, who otherwise would descend into arguments every five minutes, can continue to kick a ball about on the grass.

They are not here to ensure a just universe.

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Re: Olympiacos v Villa Pre-match Thread
« Reply #252 on: May 08, 2024, 12:45:34 PM »
It doesn't bother me really. If they wanted a dodgy ref they could have bought one with a spotless record, rather than one who has probably been under scrutiny now for most of his career.

I don't know the ins and outs of it, but from what I've read it seems like he was a young and inexperienced lad who was given cash to not kick up a fuss, and later realised the implications of it.

How many of us haven't had a situation at work as a youngster where you've gone along with or not argued with something that you felt wasn't right, but all the senior and more experienced people just cracked on with?

He’s a bent referee. He shouldn’t be anywhere near professional football.

Why? He never made any decisions which were dodgy in the match when he took the money to look the other way? He also gave evidence to the fact not knowing if he would have a career at the end of it. And in the 20 years since that incident, apart from one exasperated Bellingham tweet, there has not been one hint of dodginess.

He accepted a bribe. Guess integrity means different things to different people.

And then he grassed himself up for taking the bribe, knowing it might have ended his fledgeling career before it had fully started.

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Re: Olympiacos v Villa Pre-match Thread
« Reply #253 on: May 08, 2024, 12:48:16 PM »
He had enough integrity to dob himself in and accept the consequences and stop the actual match fixer continuing to referee.

He took a bribe in his position as a referee.

Yes, you keep saying that. Why do you think the third time will miraculously change my opinion?

You seem to fail to understand what a referee’s role is.

He was an assistant referee

Ah yes, they are allowed to take bribes. They don’t have to bother with making sure the game is fair and the rules are followed.

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Re: Olympiacos v Villa Pre-match Thread
« Reply #254 on: May 08, 2024, 12:49:50 PM »
He had enough integrity to dob himself in and accept the consequences and stop the actual match fixer continuing to referee.

He took a bribe in his position as a referee.

Yes, you keep saying that. Why do you think the third time will miraculously change my opinion?

You seem to fail to understand what a referee’s role is.

He was an assistant referee

Ah yes, they are allowed to take bribes. They don’t have to bother with making sure the game is fair and the rules are followed.

He didn't make any bent calls though, more paid to look the other way if any did occur. He didn't though as none did in that match at the time. And shortly afterwards he then came forward to provide evidence that the other ref was doing that.

 


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