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Author Topic: Aston Villa 2 Chelsea 2 Post Match Heart Massage.  (Read 30488 times)

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Re: Aston Villa 2 Chelsea 2 Post Match Heart Massage.
« Reply #330 on: April 28, 2024, 10:49:48 AM »
Isn't it three times this season we've lost a 2-0 lead? Not to mention going 3 up against Forest and them clawing it back to 3-2. It's an area to improve on I'd say!

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Re: Aston Villa 2 Chelsea 2 Post Match Heart Massage.
« Reply #331 on: April 28, 2024, 10:50:24 AM »
This lot are beginning to feel like a bit of a bogey side given the way we have performed in the last two home games.
We can be a proper Jekyll and Hyde team at times, but thar right and things will look even brighter.

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Re: Aston Villa 2 Chelsea 2 Post Match Heart Massage.
« Reply #332 on: April 28, 2024, 10:50:50 AM »
Regarding the last minute Chelsea ‘goal’. In the ground I thought it was a foul, I’ve seen the VAR slowed down replay and it looked a foul, however just catching up on MOTD and I feel we may have got away with one tbf. It was a foul but it was soft and Carlos didn’t cover himself in glory in those 2 mins

Three strikers who will always favour on the side of goal scorers all state they didn't think it was a foul so you agreed with them? I never get why a deliberate push in the back of the player favourite to get the ball is classed as soft on the fouled player (same with when Ollie didn't get a penalty for very similar contact into the back of him against Wolves.

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Re: Aston Villa 2 Chelsea 2 Post Match Heart Massage.
« Reply #333 on: April 28, 2024, 10:56:36 AM »
Frustrating cos Chelsea are shit.

And letting that yapping Yorkshire Terrier Gallagher score again is infuriating. Overrated little shit-heel...

Still, a point is better than losing, so small mercies.

We have to look for stronger competition for both Diego Carlos & Olsen for next season though.

Neither are anywhere near good enough.

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Re: Aston Villa 2 Chelsea 2 Post Match Heart Massage.
« Reply #334 on: April 28, 2024, 11:02:28 AM »
Reason we fell so apart may be part due to injury to Tielemans and the substitution with Diaby. then we didnt have Tielemans serving the attackers with passes and we didnt have Mcginn up there to hold on to the ball and being aggresive. Diaby not holding on to the ball, getting passes or being particulary playable and our counterattacking strategy fell apart. Might be said before this, havent read all the thread (yet).

McGinn was brutal in both positions. Big SJM fan but he had a shocker last night. Tielemans was a loss as he seemed the only one composed in possession.
Emery was far too slow not to recognise they moved all their attacks down our left. As much as Diaby struggled I think he would have been a better bet on our left than Rogers in helping out Digne.

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Re: Aston Villa 2 Chelsea 2 Post Match Heart Massage.
« Reply #335 on: April 28, 2024, 11:05:31 AM »
Isn't it three times this season we've lost a 2-0 lead? Not to mention going 3 up against Forest and them clawing it back to 3-2. It's an area to improve on I'd say!

When you distill it down though, you sort of realise its a moan that we're not going to win the league. So while I'd absolutely love for us to improve upon that for next season, to challenge for the title, it feels a bit off moaning about it, with our highest finish in 30 years, 20 wins 70+ goals etc.
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Re: Aston Villa 2 Chelsea 2 Post Match Heart Massage.
« Reply #336 on: April 28, 2024, 11:05:57 AM »
When he missed the open goal I did wonder on McGinn, lucky he had Sideshow Mel to cannon it in for him.

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Re: Aston Villa 2 Chelsea 2 Post Match Heart Massage.
« Reply #337 on: April 28, 2024, 11:07:03 AM »
This lot are beginning to feel like a bit of a bogey side given the way we have performed in the last two home games.
We can be a proper Jekyll and Hyde team at times, but thar right and things will look even brighter.

Yes I said last they seem to be kryptonite to us, but still we've took 4 points off them this season.

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Re: Aston Villa 2 Chelsea 2 Post Match Heart Massage.
« Reply #338 on: April 28, 2024, 11:10:07 AM »
Watching back that first goal we conceded, it was just really poor play. Sometimes you have to realise you’re boxed in and take a different option.

Long ball to Watkins didn't work all night. Granted he was outnumbered a lot of the time but his hold up play was poor throughout. We played out of the Chelsea press comfortably enough in the first half but after half time we just couldn't. For that goal at least we were trying to do the right thing but Luiz simply can't be caught in possession like that.

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Re: Aston Villa 2 Chelsea 2 Post Match Heart Massage.
« Reply #339 on: April 28, 2024, 11:10:30 AM »
Isn't it three times this season we've lost a 2-0 lead? Not to mention going 3 up against Forest and them clawing it back to 3-2. It's an area to improve on I'd say!

When you distill it down though, you sort of realise its a moan that we're not going to win the league. So while I'd absolutely love for us to improve upon that for next season, to challenge for the title, it feels a bit off moaning about it, with our highest finish in 30 years, 70 wins 70+ goals etc.

Well, it might be a moan as to why we don't finish top 4, which could actually be damaging to our ambitions. Underperforming teams might be better than us next year, this might be our only real chance in these years to get into the CL, and I just don't want a repeat of the last time we came close but missed out.

Emery's a miracle worker, but that's kind of our problem - the performance of this team is a bit too close to miraculous for us to feel comfortable about the future.

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Re: Aston Villa 2 Chelsea 2 Post Match Heart Massage.
« Reply #340 on: April 28, 2024, 11:10:56 AM »
Really really poor to throw away another 2 goal lead and i fear this will come back to haunt us . Tielemans looked finished for the season the way he wen off. I think Martinez was precautionary . I think we've handed Spurs hope . Just need to rely on Arsenal and Chelsea this week now .

Tielemans walked off on the Doug Ellis side, then walked all round the pitch. Hopefully not too bad.
His reaction when lying injured suggested otherwise, fingers crossed but knowing our luck…
He was punching the pitch as if he knew he was going to miss a few weeks now .

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Re: Aston Villa 2 Chelsea 2 Post Match Heart Massage.
« Reply #341 on: April 28, 2024, 11:11:45 AM »
Frustrating cos Chelsea are shit.

And letting that yapping Yorkshire Terrier Gallagher score again is infuriating. Overrated little shit-heel...

Still, a point is better than losing, so small mercies.

We have to look for stronger competition for both Diego Carlos & Olsen for next season though.

Neither are anywhere near good enough.

They're clearly not shit against us. 


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Re: Aston Villa 2 Chelsea 2 Post Match Heart Massage.
« Reply #342 on: April 28, 2024, 11:12:03 AM »
Watching back that first goal we conceded, it was just really poor play. Sometimes you have to realise you’re boxed in and take a different option.

Long ball to Watkins didn't work all night. Granted he was outnumbered a lot of the time but his hold up play was poor throughout. We played out of the Chelsea press comfortably enough in the first half but after half time we just couldn't. For that goal at least we were trying to do the right thing but Luiz simply can't be caught in possession like that.

They changed shape. First half they tried overloads with wing backs pushed up high, so we just flattened out to smother. Easy enough and they never looked like scoring. Second half they push Side Show Bob into midfield and constantly out numbered us. If Tielemans is on the pitch, we exploit the chasms of space they left, but I stead we lumped the wrong ball (never a channel ball) to Ollie, who was poor in holding it up.

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Re: Aston Villa 2 Chelsea 2 Post Match Heart Massage.
« Reply #343 on: April 28, 2024, 11:14:23 AM »
Frustrating cos Chelsea are shit.

And letting that yapping Yorkshire Terrier Gallagher score again is infuriating. Overrated little shit-heel...

Still, a point is better than losing, so small mercies.

We have to look for stronger competition for both Diego Carlos & Olsen for next season though.

Neither are anywhere near good enough.

They're clearly not shit against us.
When they click they look a decent team.
They did last night.

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Re: Aston Villa 2 Chelsea 2 Post Match Heart Massage.
« Reply #344 on: April 28, 2024, 11:16:17 AM »
Isn't it three times this season we've lost a 2-0 lead? Not to mention going 3 up against Forest and them clawing it back to 3-2. It's an area to improve on I'd say!

When you distill it down though, you sort of realise its a moan that we're not going to win the league. So while I'd absolutely love for us to improve upon that for next season, to challenge for the title, it feels a bit off moaning about it, with our highest finish in 30 years, 70 wins 70+ goals etc.

Well, it might be a moan as to why we don't finish top 4, which could actually be damaging to our ambitions. Underperforming teams might be better than us next year, this might be our only real chance in these years to get into the CL, and I just don't want a repeat of the last time we came close but missed out.

Emery's a miracle worker, but that's kind of our problem - the performance of this team is a bit too close to miraculous for us to feel comfortable about the future.

With losing two of the big players for all season, (maybe three with JJ being unavailable for most of the season as well and affected by it when he was back), and then losing another big player just passed the the half way stage, we did need some miracles.

Get those players back (hopefully to same levels), finally improve right back depth and get in other players for depth elsewhere and we won't have to rely on them.

 


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