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Re: Aston Villa 2 Chelsea 2 Post Match Heart Massage.
« Reply #210 on: April 27, 2024, 11:31:19 PM »

Alot of neutrals are all saying it was soft too. I dont want to say it but it was soft in my opinion. A soft nudge. Carlos was so weak and shit for that. We got a tad bit lucky there

What? All the ones in the press who support the "big" six. We had a soft VAR against us against Sheffield. So why not accept it happens to all teams rather then you stating we should offer Chelsea the three points because it was a supposed soft decision. For it being soft, the Sky commentator called it a foul in real time.

Because it was soft. Whether we have had ones against us or not doesnt merit it wasnt soft or it wasnt. No one could argue if it was given it would not have been deserved. We were totally hopeless for most of that game.

I gurantee if that was in conference league they would have given that goal.

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Re: Aston Villa 2 Chelsea 2 Post Match Heart Massage.
« Reply #211 on: April 27, 2024, 11:32:27 PM »
Overall across the season Chelsea are one of the teams to have our number, in terms of performance. They outplayed us tonight, they were much the better side before the red card at Stamford Bridge, and they ran over us in the FA Cup. The return of 4 points against them in the league is pretty bloody good. Unai will have to work out how to play against them next season, but hopefully they really turn up against Spurs.

Yeah but at the same time, Newcastle have taken six points off us this season, and they're every bit as bog standard as Chelsea are this season.

It's a shame we didn't win, it was a poor performance, but shit happens. We've not won, but we also haven't lost. We've taken a point here when we'd hope for three, but we just took three points from Arsenal when we'd all have snatched something's hand off for a point.

We are at the very end of a long and tiring season, we're bound to have games like this.

Look at what a good side Liverpool are, and then look at the sort of performances they've been turning in recently. After 50+ games, this sort of thing happens.

It was a poor performance against a side who are probably better than the league table says, or at least should be, but then again, we still took a point.

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Re: Aston Villa 2 Chelsea 2 Post Match Heart Massage.
« Reply #212 on: April 27, 2024, 11:32:40 PM »
It was also be wonderful if we could start coming back and winning goals from two down as opposed to always giving up 2 goal leads. Hopefully we will see this much less come next season as unai learning about this group

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Re: Aston Villa 2 Chelsea 2 Post Match Heart Massage.
« Reply #213 on: April 27, 2024, 11:33:27 PM »
Thought the tactics were terrible today, no pressure in the midfield allowing them space and time, their first was through us pissing about and losing possession, their second i believe emmi would have saved that. Watkins had no support and was well held. We should not be giving up a two goal lead, Duran should have been on earlier.

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Re: Aston Villa 2 Chelsea 2 Post Match Heart Massage.
« Reply #214 on: April 27, 2024, 11:35:46 PM »
It was a clear foul. Who was the better side on the night doesn't alter that.

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Re: Aston Villa 2 Chelsea 2 Post Match Heart Massage.
« Reply #215 on: April 27, 2024, 11:38:32 PM »
It was a clear foul. Who was the better side on the night doesn't alter that.

Agreed, a clear foul. Amazed ref didn't see it first time round.

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Re: Aston Villa 2 Chelsea 2 Post Match Heart Massage.
« Reply #216 on: April 27, 2024, 11:39:05 PM »
It was also be wonderful if we could start coming back and winning goals from two down as opposed to always three times giving up 2 goal leads. Hopefully we will see this much less come next season as unai learning about this group

I fixed it for you. Three times. And we did come back from two down against Bournemouth away. Didn't win it but then neither did Chelsea or Brentford. We also came back from 1 goal down multiple times as well to win matches.


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Re: Aston Villa 2 Chelsea 2 Post Match Heart Massage.
« Reply #217 on: April 27, 2024, 11:39:46 PM »
Now just need Spurs to fuck up their next three games.

They lose their next three (which is still very possible) and we'd actually confirm 4th by beating Brighton so that's the perspective needed for tonight I think now I've calmed down after that second half.

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Re: Aston Villa 2 Chelsea 2 Post Match Heart Massage.
« Reply #218 on: April 27, 2024, 11:41:31 PM »
Soft doesn't come into it. It's either a foul or it isn't. The Chelsea player pushed him which prevented Carlos from being able to challenge. If he hadn't have fouled him then he wouldn't have been able to get the ball across. A foul all day long on Carlos. Amazed the ref didn't see it as I was screaming at the TV as soon as it happened. VAR 100% correct to call it. A  great night for VAR which prevented a complete howler of a mistake by the referee.

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Re: Aston Villa 2 Chelsea 2 Post Match Heart Massage.
« Reply #219 on: April 27, 2024, 11:41:42 PM »
It was also be wonderful if we could start coming back and winning goals from two down as opposed to always three times giving up 2 goal leads. Hopefully we will see this much less come next season as unai learning about this group

I fixed it for you. Three times. And we did come back from two down against Bournemouth away. Didn't win it but then neither did Chelsea or Brentford. We also came back from 1 goal down multiple times as well to win matches.



4 times. Luton away, but we won that one.

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Re: Aston Villa 2 Chelsea 2 Post Match Heart Massage.
« Reply #220 on: April 27, 2024, 11:42:00 PM »
Now just need Spurs to fuck up their next three games.

They lose their next three (which is still very possible) and we'd actually confirm 4th by beating Brighton so that's the perspective needed for tonight I think now I've calmed down after that second half.

Exactly, posted similar in the 'Champions League Contention' thread.

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Re: Aston Villa 2 Chelsea 2 Post Match Heart Massage.
« Reply #221 on: April 27, 2024, 11:42:03 PM »
It was a clear foul. Who was the better side on the night doesn't alter that.

Agreed, a clear foul. Amazed ref didn't see it first time round.

Worry is there would be what he stated he saw to VAR. No matter what all three strikers on MOTD stated about 6 of one and half dozen, if the ref stated he didn't think it was a foul because of something, whatever he told VAR, they stated it was wrong. I'm guessing it was the forearm into the back they called it on.

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Re: Aston Villa 2 Chelsea 2 Post Match Heart Massage.
« Reply #222 on: April 27, 2024, 11:43:30 PM »
It was also be wonderful if we could start coming back and winning goals from two down as opposed to always three times giving up 2 goal leads. Hopefully we will see this much less come next season as unai learning about this group

I fixed it for you. Three times. And we did come back from two down against Bournemouth away. Didn't win it but then neither did Chelsea or Brentford. We also came back from 1 goal down multiple times as well to win matches.



4 times. Luton away, but we won that one.

I'm going on matches were ultimately we threw away the points and didn't win. Because he is also asking why we don't come back from goals down to win matches, even though only one team have actually beaten us from 2 down.

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Re: Aston Villa 2 Chelsea 2 Post Match Heart Massage.
« Reply #223 on: April 27, 2024, 11:45:17 PM »
We’d have won that game if Tielemans hadn’t gone off injured - McGinn having to cover for the totally ineffective Dougie for most of match. Not been in form for months now. Perfectly signed off with that miscontrol from a cross field ball he failed to trap just before he was hooked.
Likewise for Moussa - We may as well have been playing with 9 tonight.

Also, WTF is it with away fans in the home stands lately? Had a go at one who was filming the away end as they celebrated going 3-2 up, smirking like a Cheshire Cat. Politely asked him to go forth and multiply from the Trinity Road Upper before I gave him a helping hand. Could spot em a mile off - all with those fucking half n half scarves.

How can so many get tickets, when proper Villa fans with booking history can’t get near them?! Really boils my piss. 😡

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Re: Aston Villa 2 Chelsea 2 Post Match Heart Massage.
« Reply #224 on: April 27, 2024, 11:45:55 PM »
It was also be wonderful if we could start coming back and winning goals from two down as opposed to always giving up 2 goal leads. Hopefully we will see this much less come next season as unai learning about this group

I know this is how you “feel”, but it’s simply not backed up by the data.  We’re fifth in the league for points gained from losing positions - we’re actually pretty good at coming back from behind.

And even after tonight, we’ve the second best record in the league for points lost from winning positions (we were the best ant keeping points from a lead until we dropped 2 tonight).

Tonight hurts, but don’t let that blind you to the fact that we’re pretty good at coming back when going behind, and keeping a lead when we get in front. We don’t do it 100% of the time, but we’re in the top few for both in the league.

 


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