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Re: West Ham v Aston Villa post match
« Reply #240 on: March 18, 2024, 10:19:24 AM »
Cash had a really good game yesterday. If he could add consistency to his game he'd be great.

When he's played as a right back in a back 4 he's consistently good.

He's consistently...iffy. He struggles to move the ball into midfield, he tends to hold it for too long, concedes a lot of needless throw-ins, and is very often the one failing to step up to make the offside trap.

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Re: West Ham v Aston Villa post match
« Reply #241 on: March 18, 2024, 10:21:34 AM »
Cash had a really good game yesterday. If he could add consistency to his game he'd be great.
He did.  However there was a break in the 2nd half where he really should have shot, but pulled it back to no-one.

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Re: West Ham v Aston Villa post match
« Reply #242 on: March 18, 2024, 10:22:13 AM »
I really hope in the next game we get the starting line up right. It was great that Unai’s subs changed it, but it would be nice to get the combinations right from the start.

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Re: West Ham v Aston Villa post match
« Reply #243 on: March 18, 2024, 10:28:55 AM »
Cash had a really good game yesterday. If he could add consistency to his game he'd be great.
He did.  However there was a break in the 2nd half where he really should have shot, but pulled it back to no-one.
That was a great run though but yeah chose the wrong option in the end.

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Re: West Ham v Aston Villa post match
« Reply #244 on: March 18, 2024, 10:30:23 AM »
Guardian: '“We think they are goals but VAR are the ones who decide, not us,” said David Moyes, attempting to keep his own counsel though increasingly agitated. “The referee I think chose good because there was a handball,” said the Villa goalscorer, Nicolò Zaniolo. Conclusion: VAR decisions remain forever in the eye of the beholder.'

No, Zaniolo's right because there was a handball and Moyes is just sulking. I mean, it's literally the rule.

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Re: West Ham v Aston Villa post match
« Reply #245 on: March 18, 2024, 10:34:13 AM »
Guardian: '“We think they are goals but VAR are the ones who decide, not us,” said David Moyes, attempting to keep his own counsel though increasingly agitated. “The referee I think chose good because there was a handball,” said the Villa goalscorer, Nicolò Zaniolo. Conclusion: VAR decisions remain forever in the eye of the beholder.'

No, Zaniolo's right because there was a handball and Moyes is just sulking. I mean, it's literally the rule.

That wound me up reading it this morning, proper 'both sides' bollocks. The talking points should be why the officials missed two blatant offences when they happened.

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Re: West Ham v Aston Villa post match
« Reply #246 on: March 18, 2024, 10:42:11 AM »
It was the most stick on handball you'll see all season. How we didn't get a penalty God only knows.

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Re: West Ham v Aston Villa post match
« Reply #247 on: March 18, 2024, 10:45:26 AM »
Did Leon intentionally play it onto the defender's arm to try and win the penalty? I'm not saying that negates the shout for it, just that it didn't look like a great pass regardless of the contact.

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Re: West Ham v Aston Villa post match
« Reply #248 on: March 18, 2024, 10:56:06 AM »
Cash had a really good game yesterday. If he could add consistency to his game he'd be great.

When he's played as a right back in a back 4 he's consistently good.

He's consistently...iffy. He struggles to move the ball into midfield, he tends to hold it for too long, concedes a lot of needless throw-ins, and is very often the one failing to step up to make the offside trap.
Not great against decent wingers, But we were better with him yesterday.

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Re: West Ham v Aston Villa post match
« Reply #249 on: March 18, 2024, 10:56:14 AM »
Did Leon intentionally play it onto the defender's arm to try and win the penalty? I'm not saying that negates the shout for it, just that it didn't look like a great pass regardless of the contact.

That thought did cross my mind.

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Re: West Ham v Aston Villa post match
« Reply #250 on: March 18, 2024, 10:56:45 AM »
Konsa at right back/right center back worked when Carlos played well, and would presumably work if Mings weren't out. The trouble is with Lenglet inside being too easily bullied defending counters.


not a right back for me
he has limited technical ability and shows very little forward progresion with the ball and just doesnt look comfortable there because i dont think its his position

He's not meant to get forward, it's not an orthodox right back role. The idea of having him there is that, in possession, he and the two centre backs shuffle across to make a three leaving the left back free to go very far forward indeed. Emery didn't invent this, though he did win more than one Europa League with it, and it worked great when we beat Man City and Arsenal inside a week.

Fair enough, I can see the reasons he plays it sometimes I just don’t think he is a good enough player in that position

You’re happy to see him play there I’m not it’s just the way it is with Football opinions

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Re: West Ham v Aston Villa post match
« Reply #251 on: March 18, 2024, 11:00:41 AM »
I think it goes wrong when the centre-backs inside either aren't up to it or have a bad day. Konsa is our best recovery defender against counters while Tyrone's out, and though Carlos is capable physically he has his brainless days while Lenglet really ought to only deputise Pau's role.

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Re: West Ham v Aston Villa post match
« Reply #252 on: March 18, 2024, 11:01:27 AM »
Did Leon intentionally play it onto the defender's arm to try and win the penalty? I'm not saying that negates the shout for it, just that it didn't look like a great pass regardless of the contact.
It looked that way , a little flick up not sure what else that pass was meant for .

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Re: West Ham v Aston Villa post match
« Reply #253 on: March 18, 2024, 11:07:24 AM »
Did Leon intentionally play it onto the defender's arm to try and win the penalty? I'm not saying that negates the shout for it, just that it didn't look like a great pass regardless of the contact.
It looked that way , a little flick up not sure what else that pass was meant for .

The only way their defender could have been asking for it more was if he'd held a banner out saying "hit me here".

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Re: West Ham v Aston Villa post match
« Reply #254 on: March 18, 2024, 11:07:39 AM »
Did Leon intentionally play it onto the defender's arm to try and win the penalty? I'm not saying that negates the shout for it, just that it didn't look like a great pass regardless of the contact.
Without doubt, which brings into question the arm to ball argument.
Although i have no idea what constitutes a penalty decision these days, its random.

On this subject, I keep hearing them go on about deliberate handball for their second disallowed goal, I thought the law was, if the ball touches the part of  hand /arm in the build up to  a goal its  is handball regardless of intent.

Or have they changed it again?
« Last Edit: March 18, 2024, 11:11:00 AM by ChicagoLion »

 


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