West Ham v Aston Villa post match

[VillaTim]

We do need to look at our defending on set pieces. Both the disallowed goals the defending is abysmal.

It does show for all these set piece coaches clubs employ now that sometimes a good old fashioned diagonal inswinger into the six yard box can create havoc. Bowen and Ward Prowse get tremendous whip on them.

Good news is they've got Spurs in two weeks and their keeper badly struggles against corners that are whipped towards him so hopefully West Ham will get at least a point off them that way.

The corner for disallowed goal 1 is fairly standard. We dealt with it badly and love him to bits best keeper in the world for me , he's not dealt with that but the boxer is interfering with him again.
Disallowed goal 2 is just messy , yes it's a lovely whipped cross but we are weak dealing with it .

[Olneythelonely]

Not sure if Emery is trying to prove a point with Konsa at full back, not sure what the point is as I have never seen him play well there.

He’s been brilliant there on lots of occasions. Was shit there today though.

[VillaTim]

Not sure if Emery is trying to prove a point with Konsa at full back, not sure what the point is as I have never seen him play well there.

He’s been brilliant there on lots of occasions. Was shit there today though.

Emery is a pioneer of this 3 CB at the back thing so he may be showing a stubborn side. To his absolute credit , he changes it in game if he needs to .

[Martyn Smith]

What was Zaniolo's 'shush' in aid of?

Would have been worse if he did a 'Z' gesture.

😂

I thought he was good when he came on. Keep that form up please worldyorchiooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooo

I noticed that the rest of the team barely celebrated with him

[Hillbilly]

I think the three centre backs thing is an attempt to adjust for Kamara's absence. Earlier in the season Kamara dropped in when we were defending allowing the fullbacks to push up a little higher.

Also there was that weird decision by the ref to give a free kick to West Ham for a foul by Soucek on Tielemans. Tielemans clearly got the ball and Soucek clearly caught him with a high foot.

[Martyn Smith]

Anyway, that's one of worst away visits over for another season. Why is the trudge back to Stratford always twice as long as the trudge there? And the stadium and whole area around it is so sucked of soul and atmosphere...

[VillaTim]

Anyway, that's one of worst away visits over for another season. Why is the trudge back to Stratford always twice as long as the trudge there? And the stadium and whole area around it is so sucked of soul and atmosphere...

I worked near there for a few months, desperate place. Lived in that premier inn on the shopping centre.
Absolute travesty West Ham were sucked out of their home to that place. Enjoyed the character of the old ground and the pubs (Boleyn Arms Etc) .

[Brazilian Villain]

Absolute travesty West Ham were sucked out of their home to that place. Enjoyed the character of the old ground and the pubs (Boleyn Arms Etc).

Hopefully, away fans won't be saying the same about us in 10 or 20 years' time.

[pelty]

VAR got two decisions right and one wrong for me.  Was a game of 3 handballs.

Cash, Konsa, Torres & Digne/Moreno - stop trying to shoe horn Lenglet in, if he was as good with the ball as he clearly thinks is he’d be captain of Barcelona not farmed out to us

The Spammers handball wasn't VAR but the ref. He was looking straight at it so told VAR he had seen it and didn't think it was deliberate. The players arm was out as he was pointing to his team mate and the ball was played against it. Not a natural position, but not deliberately lifted to block it so would always be on-field call.

This means nothing. One takes a chance when sticking the arm out for any reason. His arm stopped a pass in the box and it was out because he decided to stick it out to point. Bad choice in that situation and absolutely should have been called a hand ball. One of the worst decisions I have ever seen.

[langleylions]

I dont think zaniolo is shushing the fans , if you look at a still picture his finger is bent suggesting he is having a cigar !!

[taylorsworkrate]

Not sure if Emery is trying to prove a point with Konsa at full back, not sure what the point is as I have never seen him play well there.

He’s been brilliant there on lots of occasions. Was shit there today though.

I wouldn't say lots of occasions. Most of the time it stifles the attacking play completely down our right hand side as teams are happy for him to be the outlet ball. Konsa is our best CB at actually defending. He needs to be in that position.

[Somniloquism]

VAR got two decisions right and one wrong for me.  Was a game of 3 handballs.

Cash, Konsa, Torres & Digne/Moreno - stop trying to shoe horn Lenglet in, if he was as good with the ball as he clearly thinks is he’d be captain of Barcelona not farmed out to us

The Spammers handball wasn't VAR but the ref. He was looking straight at it so told VAR he had seen it and didn't think it was deliberate. The players arm was out as he was pointing to his team mate and the ball was played against it. Not a natural position, but not deliberately lifted to block it so would always be on-field call.

This means nothing. One takes a chance when sticking the arm out for any reason. His arm stopped a pass in the box and it was out because he decided to stick it out to point. Bad choice in that situation and absolutely should have been called a hand ball. One of the worst decisions I have ever seen.

It means everything when it is a subjective decision and not an absolute like goal scoring handball. The ref decided the arm was already there and the ball then hit the arm. The last minute goal was reviewed by the ref because the ball came off Bowen last. If it hadn't have touched him and went in off Soucek, it was an absolute and would have been called by VAR. But as the handball was the goal scorer, the ref had to make the call because it was subjective handball. And they all rightly concluded that Soucek deliberately moved his arm to push it in / away from the defender.

[The Edge]

It was hand ball pure and simple. The West Ham luvvies on Talk Shite didn't agree. They think that because the checks took so long it wasn't a clear and obvious error. Apparently VAR and match officials are following orders off the Premier league to stop Wet Spam catching Man Yoo. The female presenter was also convinced that Jeff Stelling had it in for them. Jeez they're a paranoid lot.

[brontebilly]

Let's be honest we would have been fuming if either of those two VAR goals had been given against us but that's the rule. With all the furore about the handball for the second one, they missed Soucek pulling back Konsa. Looking back Martinez was awful for the first and maybe should be coming for the second too. None of our three centre backs looked like winning a header all game. Granted it's where WHU are strong but teams are exposing us a lot now at set pieces.

 Bailey's one was a penalty too, the defender was an idiot with his arm outstretched like that.

[The Edge]

Let's be honest we would have been fuming if either of those two VAR goals had been given against us but that's the rule. With all the furore about the handball for the second one, they missed Soucek pulling back Konsa. Looking back Martinez was awful for the first and maybe should be coming for the second too. None of our three centre backs looked like winning a header all game. Granted it's where WHU are strong but teams are exposing us a lot now at set pieces.

 Bailey's one was a penalty too, the defender was an idiot with his arm outstretched like that.

Yeah watching MOTD2 last night they looked at it and said his arm was in a "natural position" What?