Aston Villa vs Spurs post match embarrassment

[Demitri_C]

That was about the strongest team Spurs could play and in all honesty they are a very good side, particularly their full backs. The criticism of our shape is mostly due to our inability to make the most of the turnovers as we were often 3 v 3 with loads of space to run into given how high Spurs pushed up. It has been a major strength in the main, and on another day it might have been a masterclass by Emery, but that’s football.

Defensively though, we’ve got worse as the season has gone on, but then teams are pressing us better than they were in the first half of the season.

Good post nick and i agree. Any team that presses us well we absolutely fall apart. It does suprise me that when this happens emery has no backup plan.

Its the same against sours u press them but their back four under pressure that's when they are at their worst and we did neither.i literally have no idea what emery was thinking with that setup yesterday.  Couldnt have played to spurs strengths more. This is the same spurs side that struggles to win away from home. Im sure i have a de ja vu feeling oh thats right the other was against manure which we lost!

[AV82EC]

That was about the strongest team Spurs could play and in all honesty they are a very good side, particularly their full backs. The criticism of our shape is mostly due to our inability to make the most of the turnovers as we were often 3 v 3 with loads of space to run into given how high Spurs pushed up. It has been a major strength in the main, and on another day it might have been a masterclass by Emery, but that’s football.

Defensively though, we’ve got worse as the season has gone on, but then teams are pressing us better than they were in the first half of the season.

Agree on the fullbacks, especially Udogie, he’s a very good player. And also agree on the high press employed by the opposition, Unai needs to find a solution.

[nick harper]

That was about the strongest team Spurs could play and in all honesty they are a very good side, particularly their full backs. The criticism of our shape is mostly due to our inability to make the most of the turnovers as we were often 3 v 3 with loads of space to run into given how high Spurs pushed up. It has been a major strength in the main, and on another day it might have been a masterclass by Emery, but that’s football.

Defensively though, we’ve got worse as the season has gone on, but then teams are pressing us better than they were in the first half of the season.

Good post nick and i agree. Any team that presses us well we absolutely fall apart. It does suprise me that when this happens emery has no backup plan.

Its the same against sours u press them but their back four under pressure that's when they are at their worst and we did neither.i literally have no idea what emery was thinking with that setup yesterday.  Couldnt have played to spurs strengths more. This is the same spurs side that struggles to win away from home. Im sure i have a de ja vu feeling oh thats right the other was against manure which we lost!

Not sure that’s right. They’ve won 6 and only lost 2 away from home and that includes draws at Arsenal and Man City. They are very much a front foot side, a bit vulnerable at the back, but lots of options going forward. Like us, they’ve got to play the top 3 again.

[simon ward 50]

Anybody having Moscow flash backs?

[ChicagoLion]

Not sure it's been mentioned but did anyone notice Torres marauder forward from open play at the start of the second half? I thought we had changed our formation and let him be our midfield maestro!

Torres always moves forward with the ball
He’s the most progressive player we have in the team he’s fantastic

I'd suggest sticking him in midfield for the next few games, but the rest of the defence can't be trusted not to misbehave without him.

We are going to have to come up with something because Luiz can not do it on his own.
He obviously dosent think Tim is ready and Tielemans is better further forward.

[VillaTim]

Anybody having Moscow flash backs?

is it not Stoke flashbacks

[RamboandBruno]

Why should we always have a go at home?

Is that a serious question? Why wouldn't we try to beat a team lower than us in the table, especially over our nearest rivals where a victory would more or less cement our top 4 and Champions League place?

This was our Stoke moment, and we've blown it. Or rather, Emery blew it.

Its probably worth waiting until the end of the season before judging whether yesterday was our Stoke moment. Its always better to have the points on the board than games in hand and at the moment we’re still 4th, nothing has been determined yet.

Yesterday, for those tactics to be deemed to have worked, however unpalatable they were, we would of needed to score first. Once we had to chase it, we were largely there for the taking.

Looking at the season as a whole so far, I think the reason we have let goals in, in most games is largely due to not being able to play a settled back four. Moreno out before a ball is kicked, Mings out for season part way through first game, Moreno slowly comes back as Dignes is done for six weeks. Pau’s out for two months, as he’s trying to come back, Konsa’s out for a month. If you look at our great run at the end of last season, it was Cash, Konsa, Mings, Moreno, starting virtually every match.

Fingers crossed it looks like we could have a settled back four again, if Unai chooses to use, for the rest of the season. So hopefully that should help.
The midfield though, not entirely sure where we go from next Sunday onwards. Getting Ramsey back will be massive, but I’ll think he’ll have to rely on Tim, until McGinns back.

[john e]

Not sure it's been mentioned but did anyone notice Torres marauder forward from open play at the start of the second half? I thought we had changed our formation and let him be our midfield maestro!

Torres always moves forward with the ball
He’s the most progressive player we have in the team he’s fantastic

I'd suggest sticking him in midfield for the next few games, but the rest of the defence can't be trusted not to misbehave without him.

We are going to have to come up with something because Luiz can not do it on his own.
He obviously dosent think Tim is ready and Tielemans is better further forward.

He’s going to have to play Tim

[VILLA MOLE]

I  seem to be getting lots of Spurzz  feeds from Facebook , dear me they are a bunch of deluded precious wankers .

Revenge for Bentancour ! McGinn is as dirty as Cash !!

Just enjoy your win you were the better team !

I think I would rather Manure get fourth now

joking obviously

[pablo_picasso]

I  seem to be getting lots of Spurzz  feeds from Facebook , dear me they are a bunch of deluded precious wankers .

Revenge for Bentancour ! McGinn is as dirty as Cash !!

Just enjoy your win you were the better team !

I think I would rather Manure get fourth now

joking obviously

Yeah, my mate sent me that this morning.

I reminded him the fall off that high horse will be hilarious when their very own thug Romero assaults someone again...

[Demitri_C]

That was about the strongest team Spurs could play and in all honesty they are a very good side, particularly their full backs. The criticism of our shape is mostly due to our inability to make the most of the turnovers as we were often 3 v 3 with loads of space to run into given how high Spurs pushed up. It has been a major strength in the main, and on another day it might have been a masterclass by Emery, but that’s football.

Defensively though, we’ve got worse as the season has gone on, but then teams are pressing us better than they were in the first half of the season.

Good post nick and i agree. Any team that presses us well we absolutely fall apart. It does suprise me that when this happens emery has no backup plan.

Its the same against sours u press them but their back four under pressure that's when they are at their worst and we did neither.i literally have no idea what emery was thinking with that setup yesterday.  Couldnt have played to spurs strengths more. This is the same spurs side that struggles to win away from home. Im sure i have a de ja vu feeling oh thats right the other was against manure which we lost!

Not sure that’s right. They’ve won 6 and only lost 2 away from home and that includes draws at Arsenal and Man City. They are very much a front foot side, a bit vulnerable at the back, but lots of options going forward. Like us, they’ve got to play the top 3 again.

Their last away win was dec 15th against forest

They do have alot of options going forward i agree. I did say a while i go and got laughed at that spurs have more depth in their squad than we do

[rougegorge]

Whilst we both have to play the top 3, they have 2 of them at home, and also they still have the bottom 4 to play, whereas we have played the bottom 5 twice already.

[Somniloquism]

Their last away win was dec 15th against forest

They do have alot of options going forward i agree. I did say a while i go and got laughed at that spurs have more depth in their squad than we do

You got "laughed" at because you also decided that long term injuries for us don't count, but for them claimed they still had more out injured against us Sunday including a player who was out for the season.

But I expect they do have a stronger in-depth due to having close to 250mill to spend in the summer + others. When we had that FFP freedom, we didn't have a team that had finished in the top five for six of the last 10 years to build on. We couldn't even use any loans in Jan to plug spaces like they have because we had used them up to plug the two long term injuries you don't count as a problem for us this season.

[trinityoap]

April 14th 1981.Aston Villa 1  -  Ipswich Town 2. Remember how that ended.

[Toronto Villa]

Deep breath.

Yesterday was shit.

Today we are still 4th with 10 games to and in the last 16 of the Conference League.

And relax. I’m sure I will be hyperventilating again on Thursday night ahead of the next big game. But for now…