Aston Villa vs Spurs post match embarrassment

[Chico Hamilton III]

First time in a very long while that we left the game before the end (wankers ay we?) shit weather, shit result and some dirty barstard in the back of the lower Holte dropping some of the worst farts I’ve ever smelt - worse than any Boxing Day dirty bombs. I’ve still got the smell in my nostrils.

[Axl Rose]

even the Spurs fans on my social media are saying why didnt they come at us, we just picked them off because of there negative set up
then you have people on here saying it was working, working my arse was it
absolute surrender thats what it was and we got exactly what we deserved

Exactly right, it was gutless and brainless. When was the last time that 5 at the back actually worked? Does Emery not remember Spurs away, Liverpool, Forest and Brentford (the latter losing until he changed it)?

Spot on, mate.

We were abysmal, tactically and physically.

We should always have a go at home. We didn't yesterday, and I've no idea why.

[Drummond]

I don't know what game people were watching, the tactics were an abomination. We were playing a team below us in the table, not Barcelona, and we didn't have a shot on target. We hadn't kept a clean sheet at home since before Christmas, and they hadn't not scored away since last season, so it was only a matter of time. McGinn was looking OK, but other than that every single played looked awful. They won't have an easier game all season.

If we haven’t kept a clean sheet for months then I’m not sure why trying to do something about it by playing an additional defenders is an abomination rather than a legitimate attempt to fix it.

It hasn't worked any other time he's tried it.

What would you have done?

I thought the first half left the game finely balanced. The system didn't fuck it up, individual errors for their first two, followed by a rash challenge and the red card did for the rest of the game. We had to try and go for it, and left wide open spaces which is why the scoreline ended up as it did.

[Drummond]

even the Spurs fans on my social media are saying why didnt they come at us, we just picked them off because of there negative set up
then you have people on here saying it was working, working my arse was it
absolute surrender thats what it was and we got exactly what we deserved

Exactly right, it was gutless and brainless. When was the last time that 5 at the back actually worked? Does Emery not remember Spurs away, Liverpool, Forest and Brentford (the latter losing until he changed it)?

Spot on, mate.

We were abysmal, tactically and physically.

We should always have a go at home. We didn't yesterday, and I've no idea why.

Why should we always have a go at home?

[Risso]

We didn't "go for it" at any stage of the match. We didn't have a shot on target in the first half, then conceded our usual soft shite goals just after the break, two of them, at which point the game was over.

[VillaTim]

First time in a very long while that we left the game before the end (wankers ay we?) shit weather, shit result and some dirty barstard in the back of the lower Holte dropping some of the worst farts I’ve ever smelt - worse than any Boxing Day dirty bombs. I’ve still got the smell in my nostrils.

Sounds awful.

[Risso]

Why should we always have a go at home?

Is that a serious question? Why wouldn't we try to beat a team lower than us in the table, especially over our nearest rivals where a victory would more or less cement our top 4 and Champions League place?

This was our Stoke moment, and we've blown it. Or rather, Emery blew it.

[Axl Rose]

even the Spurs fans on my social media are saying why didnt they come at us, we just picked them off because of there negative set up
then you have people on here saying it was working, working my arse was it
absolute surrender thats what it was and we got exactly what we deserved

Exactly right, it was gutless and brainless. When was the last time that 5 at the back actually worked? Does Emery not remember Spurs away, Liverpool, Forest and Brentford (the latter losing until he changed it)?

Spot on, mate.

We were abysmal, tactically and physically.

We should always have a go at home. We didn't yesterday, and I've no idea why.

Why should we always have a go at home?

I think you know why.

Probably because we're usually better there, because when we do, it's largely successful, because we're further up the league than 16 other teams.

Why shouldn't we, may I ask?

[PeterWithe]

I thought the only time we played with any energy and urgency was when we went 2 down and reduced to 10 men.

Far more annoyed at what happened between zero goals and two down, than I was after that.

[Chris Smith]

I don't know what game people were watching, the tactics were an abomination. We were playing a team below us in the table, not Barcelona, and we didn't have a shot on target. We hadn't kept a clean sheet at home since before Christmas, and they hadn't not scored away since last season, so it was only a matter of time. McGinn was looking OK, but other than that every single played looked awful. They won't have an easier game all season.

If we haven’t kept a clean sheet for months then I’m not sure why trying to do something about it by playing an additional defenders is an abomination rather than a legitimate attempt to fix it.

It hasn't worked any other time he's tried it.

Just because something didn’t work it doesn’t mean that it never can. We regularly went to 5 at the back last season in the second half to try to hold on to a lead and it was more often than not successful.

Konsa’s mistake and the red card were what did for us yesterday in my view combined with both Watkins and Bailey having poor games when given the chance to exploit the spaces they were given.

[Risso]

I thought the only time we played with any energy and urgency was when we went 2 down and reduced to 19 men.

I think even with 19 men we'd have struggled yesterday!

[brontebilly]

The ridiculous thing on reflection is that the first half tactics were sort of working, admittedly it made for a turgid affair, but it seems to me we were inviting Spurs on then looking to work a position to get Watkins one on one with Romero. Except it didn’t work and we seemed to get Bailey one on one with der Ven and he was useless. They realised we were passive and really pressed us second half and Konsa and Cash got overrun and we ended up throwing it away. Hey ho onto Thursday.

this is the thing that gets me mad
they wern't working we had no shots on goal we did nothing but sit back and lob balls over the top for Watkins and Bailey to run on to from a long way out

we havent played that way all season so why the change to Moyes mode in the most important game for ages

Our front two messed up a lot of promising situations in the first half so it isn't that clearcut. Emery had a right to expect a lot more from them. Without the ball we were fine in the first half. Goals change games though. The likes of Konsa and McGinn had a crazy 10 min spell that finished us.

In saying all that I never want to see that Cash/Konsa setup again. Emery seems to be itching to play it at times but I hope that's the last of it now. If Ramsey is out midweek again then we have to try 4231, 433 or something different. Stick Bailey onto the left. With his back to goal yesterday he was timid to put it mildly. Going to have to try Diaby again on the other wing. Maybe McGinn up with Watkins to set our tone from the off with Tim next to Luiz.

[Risso]

Just because something didn’t work it doesn’t mean that it never can. We regularly went to 5 at the back last season in the second half to try to hold on to a lead and it was more often than not successful.

Konsa’s mistake and the red card were what did for us yesterday in my view combined with both Watkins and Bailey having poor games when given the chance to exploit the spaces they were given.

It hasn't worked this season, and it was obvious from early on it wasn't working again. Make all the excuses you like, but the defeat was mostly on Emery. It was an utterly dismal, abject display.

[john e]

even the Spurs fans on my social media are saying why didnt they come at us, we just picked them off because of there negative set up
then you have people on here saying it was working, working my arse was it
absolute surrender thats what it was and we got exactly what we deserved

Exactly right, it was gutless and brainless. When was the last time that 5 at the back actually worked? Does Emery not remember Spurs away, Liverpool, Forest and Brentford (the latter losing until he changed it)?

Spot on, mate.

We were abysmal, tactically and physically.

We should always have a go at home. We didn't yesterday, and I've no idea why.

Why should we always have a go at home?

thats the way you win games against teams lower than you in the table

i can guarantee when we play Arsenal, M City and Liverpool they will be having a go at us, they wont be containing and hoping for the best

[Drummond]

Why should we always have a go at home?

Is that a serious question? Why wouldn't we try to beat a team lower than us in the table, especially over our nearest rivals where a victory would more or less cement our top 4 and Champions League place?

This was our Stoke moment, and we've blown it. Or rather, Emery blew it.

What have we blown exactly? We're in 4th place in the league. Admittedly winning it is a bit of s stretch given the form of the teams above us in the table, but we're firmly on course to improve on last season and 8 points ahead of the team in 6th.

Of course we'd try to beat anyone at home, but there are ways of doing it. I'd have though by now you'd have got used to the fact that Emery isn't a gung-ho manager and that cagey games happen. It didn't work yesterday.