Aston Villa vs Spurs post match embarrassment

[Beard82]

Lenglets lack of pace means that our whole offside trap is different & playing that high line is a lot more dangerous.

As a replacement for either Torres or Mings, he is much weaker.

Yeah it’s a downgrade having him in the team.  But he isn’t as epically shit as Zanillo

[brontebilly]

Lenglets lack of pace means that our whole offside trap is different & playing that high line is a lot more dangerous.

As a replacement for either Torres or Mings, he is much weaker.

I'm not sure he is that much slower than Torres? Offside line seemed to be working fine in the first half. I think he's decent to be honest as backup to Konsa/Torres. If you want to see a bad centre back, Diego chaos Carlos gave it a fair go in his cameo from hell today. He's awful and then some. Emery might have been thinking to get some minutes into him today before starting v Ajax, please don't Unai..

[VillaTim]

Lenglets lack of pace means that our whole offside trap is different & playing that high line is a lot more dangerous.

As a replacement for either Torres or Mings, he is much weaker.

Yeah it’s a downgrade having him in the team.  But he isn’t as epically shit as Zanillo

Why is everything being measured against Zaniolo . It's stupid.

[LeonW]

Lenglets lack of pace means that our whole offside trap is different & playing that high line is a lot more dangerous.

As a replacement for either Torres or Mings, he is much weaker.

I'm not sure he is that much slower than Torres? Offside line seemed to be working fine in the first half. I think he's decent to be honest as backup to Konsa/Torres. If you want to see a bad centre back, Diego chaos Carlos gave it a fair go in his cameo from hell today. He's awful and then some. Emery might have been thinking to get some minutes into him today before starting v Ajax, please don't Unai..

Chaos Carlos is pretty apt. He’s one I’d be looking to move on in the summer, particularly as he’s likely to be on hefty wages.

[Axl Rose]

Basically I just don't like Spurs.

I think Maddison and Johnson are decent players, but just seeing them score irritates me.

Maddison is such a smug little fucker with his darts nonsense, and I think he was aiming them at our fans? Johnson winking at Mr Darts after scoring and shushing our fans? A pair of bellends.

I know they're footballers and probably have to have some form of rubbish celebration, but still. Fuck off.

[PaulWinch again]

Basically I just don't like Spurs.

I think Maddison and Johnson are decent players, but just seeing them score irritates me.

Maddison is such a smug little fucker with his darts nonsense, and I think he was aiming them at our fans? Johnson winking at Mr Darts after scoring and shushing our fans? A pair of bellends.

I know they're footballers and probably have to have some form of rubbish celebration, but still. Fuck off.

To be fair I’ve no doubt they were getting plenty of abuse, so if fans dish it out they’ve got to take it back. Maddison is especially annoying, but he’s a good player.

[pablo_picasso]

Lenglets lack of pace means that our whole offside trap is different & playing that high line is a lot more dangerous.

As a replacement for either Torres or Mings, he is much weaker.

I'm not sure he is that much slower than Torres? Offside line seemed to be working fine in the first half. I think he's decent to be honest as backup to Konsa/Torres. If you want to see a bad centre back, Diego chaos Carlos gave it a fair go in his cameo from hell today. He's awful and then some. Emery might have been thinking to get some minutes into him today before starting v Ajax, please don't Unai..

Torres is faster than Lenglet. He's not Speedy Gonzalez or anything, but he's faster than Lenglet.

Diego Carlos clearly isn't, & I don't think ever will be, the same player he was before his injury.

Which is a shame. But as he stands, I do agree, he is a poor backup to Konsa on that right hand side & needs replacing.

But that aside, Lenglet is 100% a weaker option than either Torres & Mings on that left hand side.

So having Mings out for the whole season has weakened us at the back because when Torres is out, we are forced to play Lenglet.

So if we are counting injuries to big players, Mings must be counted, despite having time (barely) to bring in a loan option replacement.

I think at that short notice, we looked at Lenglets passing ability first & foremost & overlooked the fact that he has all the pace & mobility of The Statue of David.

[Brazilian Villain]

Basically I just don't like Spurs.

No one likes Spurs, even Spurs fans loathe themselves.

[Axl Rose]

Basically I just don't like Spurs.

I think Maddison and Johnson are decent players, but just seeing them score irritates me.

Maddison is such a smug little fucker with his darts nonsense, and I think he was aiming them at our fans? Johnson winking at Mr Darts after scoring and shushing our fans? A pair of bellends.

I know they're footballers and probably have to have some form of rubbish celebration, but still. Fuck off.

To be fair I’ve no doubt they were getting plenty of abuse, so if fans dish it out they’ve got to take it back. Maddison is especially annoying, but he’s a good player.

A horrible culture, this shushing and ear cupping thing.

I'd like to know when that first started seeping into the game...

No, actually I wouldn't as it would inevitably be by someone who sets my teeth on edge.

[brontebilly]

Lenglets lack of pace means that our whole offside trap is different & playing that high line is a lot more dangerous.

As a replacement for either Torres or Mings, he is much weaker.

I'm not sure he is that much slower than Torres? Offside line seemed to be working fine in the first half. I think he's decent to be honest as backup to Konsa/Torres. If you want to see a bad centre back, Diego chaos Carlos gave it a fair go in his cameo from hell today. He's awful and then some. Emery might have been thinking to get some minutes into him today before starting v Ajax, please don't Unai..

Chaos Carlos is pretty apt. He’s one I’d be looking to move on in the summer, particularly as he’s likely to be on hefty wages.

Moving him on permanently hardly great news for FFP. Probably loan him out like Sanson, Coutinho, Donk.

I've a horrible feeling Emery will go with a back 5 again v Ajax with Carlos playing instead of Konsa to deal with their Keinan Davis clone up front.

[olaftab]

No he looks great in the Newcastle game and some of the games that followed.

PWA you’re arguing against an obsession, there is no point.

[olaftab]

Based on what i saw today, they would have trounced us at home if they ahd all their players available

They are better than us and have more squad depth. It fucking pains me to say it.  I think they did somw great business in the summer while ours looks mixed now

Hang on, more than two third of the season gone and let me check, yes they are still below us in the table. FFS get a grip will you?

[Nunkin1965]

We haven't been the same since the Bartons Arms was closed down.
Looking forward to Thursday as I think we need to get Spurs out of our system.
Also hopefully the support turns up because Ajax will be noisy.

[Percy McCarthy]

Based on what i saw today, they would have trounced us at home if they ahd all their players available

They are better than us and have more squad depth. It fucking pains me to say it.  I think they did somw great business in the summer while ours looks mixed now

If we'd have had all our players fit we would have trounced them today.

Would we? Who was missing JJ and kamara. Mings and buendia we havent had all season so cant really include them.

They had something like 6-7 out vs us and still gave us a game. We had two players out and got destroyed. Im not convinced we would have trounced them at all dave

So you don't think that not having them means our squad is not weakened for the whole season. The two replacements for them are Lenglet and Zaniolo for one. And whilst  Lenglet has been alright, he doesn't offer the rock we need or the leadership on the pitch, especially when under the cosh.

We havent had eithee player all season. Although i agree they are better than zaniolo and lenglet we knew they are probanly not gonna play this season so really we cant include those two players.

We cabt be losing 4-0 at home and saying we have major injuries when we only have two players out

We only have two players out because of your bizarre new counting system.

[BC54 VFC]

I did say that if we went high press, we would win the match. However, if we went for our slow, slow and even slower style, we would get beaten. Unfortunately, it was Spurs that went for the high press.
I just can’t accept this thing about us being tired because we played on Thursday. We hardly broke a sweat v Ajax and, continued in the same vein today. Also, if we think we can’t handle playing in the conference league, how the hell are we going to cope if we go into the champions league. Teams will be much stronger than the conf league ones and, we really can’t afford to rotate players so much in the ECL.

It's not the 90s mins played in Europe so much as the time to travel there and back. Sitting on a bus, sitting on a plane, hanging around having to prepare for that game etc rather than being at home doing the usual prep for a big league game.

Lots of teams struggle with it and it is new to us this year

The chartered flight which the players took home (AMS to BHX) was just 51 minutes in duration, and landed at BHX at 23.20hrs on Thursday evening, so the players would have been tucked up in bed just after midnight. Frankly, that's an easier journey than my drive to Villa Park for every home game, and bearing in mind the extremely pedestrian performance in Amsterdam, I don't think physical fatigue is an excuse in this instance.