Aston Villa vs Spurs post match embarrassment

[KevinGage]

In reply to SE's question of the best away end for fans, the best I have ever been to is the ground in the Greek islands off Crete. The visiting fans end is a sheer cliff face. Shots going wide of the goal simply bounce off the rock face back into play for a goal kick or a corner.

A bit like Aberdeen then.

Welcome back, BTW.

[VillaTim]

That moment Watkins went clean through and instead of unleashing a shot decided to try and pass (really badly) to Bailey. It was so uncharacteristic and for a striker full of confidence. I get it was called offside anyway but it was a weird moment .

[Somniloquism]

Based on what i saw today, they would have trounced us at home if they ahd all their players available

They are better than us and have more squad depth. It fucking pains me to say it.  I think they did somw great business in the summer while ours looks mixed now

Who did they have missing today? And who did we have missing today?

They had richarldson missing who is a big player. Sessganon and one othee who i forgotten

I answered who we had out. JJ and kamara. We are near enough full strength otherwise since the 3rd game of the season. Its nowhere near as bad as spurs was when we went there

So you state we can't include Mings and Buendia but they can include Sessegnon. Nice.

They have Fraser Forster, Sessegnon, Solomon  and Richalison injured. A backup keeper, someone who hasn't played all season (which according to you means they shouldn't be counted), someone who has started three matches out of the first 6 and also been out for most of the season, and richarlson, who is the only real star missing.

[somersetlion]

Bad day. Very bad day.

The atmosphere at VP was, once again, absolutely shocking. A mate came with me today whos completely neutral. Hes a Norwich fan, but more so hes a football fan. He goes to loads of games all over the place, just because he really loves football.

He didn't mention the atmosphere, I think he was being polite! But when I mentioned how bad it was on the drive home he agreed. He was very surprised how quiet it was and asked why it was that we never finish our songs, they just kind of fizzle out.

We as fans have complained, quite rightly, when the team haven't turned up many times down the years. But I really think we've got to look at ourselves as well, as too often, we don't turn up either.

[Somniloquism]

If a player's out all season he isn't really out. I don't want to even try to counter that kind of logic,

Especially when he includes Sessegnon and a backup keeper for their major injuries compared to ours.

[Risso]

If a player's out all season he isn't really out. I don't want to even try to counter that kind of logic,

He means an injury in pre-season gives you time to do something about it, unlike injuries during the season outside of a transfer window. Neither Mings or Buendia were ever going to play again this season, so they're as good as non-existent in terms of planning for how the season is going to turn out.

[Demitri_C]

Based on what i saw today, they would have trounced us at home if they ahd all their players available

They are better than us and have more squad depth. It fucking pains me to say it.  I think they did somw great business in the summer while ours looks mixed now

Who did they have missing today? And who did we have missing today?

They had richarldson missing who is a big player. Sessganon and one othee who i forgotten

I answered who we had out. JJ and kamara. We are near enough full strength otherwise since the 3rd game of the season. Its nowhere near as bad as spurs was when we went there

So you state we can't include Mings and Buendia but they can include Sessegnon. Nice.

They have Fraser Forster, Sessegnon, Solomon  and Richalison injured. A backup keeper, someone who hasn't played all season (which according to you means they shouldn't be counted), someone who has started three matches out of the first 6 and also been out for most of the season, and richarlson, who is the only real star missing.

Huh?? You asked me who is out so i answered your question. Sessganon isnt a big player for them so he for me isnt a player that matters same with forster its us having olsen out.

Its 2 -1 them and us not much difference at all for all options we have have had more of season.

We cant moan about injuries today. If we had the injuries spurs had at the lane then we can but two players out is not really that bad at all in my opinion

[Demitri_C]

If a player's out all season he isn't really out. I don't want to even try to counter that kind of logic,

Thats not at all what i said. At least risso understands what i was implying =]

[andyh]

I said in the pre match thread that all I wanted was for us to turn up and show we justified our position in the top 4.

We could even fucking do that !

[Drummond]

Dreadful

I don't think Spurs even played that well. We were just shite.

Stupid formation and tactics by Emery.

I find it very strange how offended some get when any criticism gets fired Unai's way, though. It's bordering on cult like behaviour.

Both he and the team were appalling today. They'll both be back with a vengeance, I'm sure, but like it or not, Emery got it massively wrong today.

Spurs - ******

Yep, it's full-on weird.

I imagine there’s a race on to be the first to use the words ‘O’Leary’ and ‘fickle’.

You won!

[Risso]

I didn’t.

[Somniloquism]

Huh?? You asked me who is out so i answered your question. Sessganon isnt a big player for them so he for me isnt a player that matters same with forster its us having olsen out.

Its 2 -1 them and us not much difference at all for all options we have have had more of season.

We cant moan about injuries today. If we had the injuries spurs had at the lane then we can but two players out is not really that bad at all in my opinion

YOU are the one who included Sessegnon when I asked who was out.

They had richarldson missing who is a big player. Sessganon and one othee who i forgotten

As for "at the lane", of the ones who played today, they had Van Der Wen, Sarr and Maddison missing of the players who have really played for them this season. They also had Richarlson missing, but as at the time he had scored once, I don't know if he was as big miss as he might be now (although he had stopped his spree scoring the games before his injury anyway).

So Sarr for Kamara, Maddison for Ramsey leaves Van Der Wen. But as with have Konsa and Torres still not fully match fit, it seems we are even for "the lane".

[Skerra]

Bollocks, I’d forgotten that Kalvin Philips is now at West Ham now and, from what I’ve seen, he has been quite shit so far. The bad part is that he’s obviously due a good game at some point.So, expect a world master class plus, maybe a worldie goal next Sunday. He will then be offered a much improved contract immediately after the match and, then return to what he usually does best, nothing!

[Beard82]

If a player's out all season he isn't really out. I don't want to even try to counter that kind of logic,

He means an injury in pre-season gives you time to do something about it, unlike injuries during the season outside of a transfer window. Neither Mings or Buendia were ever going to play again this season, so they're as good as non-existent in terms of planning for how the season is going to turn out.

I see the logic but it doesn’t hold.  We were able to replace them but it wasn’t planned and we ended up with two inferior players. It probably easier for some club who aren’t as close to FFP but I am confident that Beundia would have added more this season than his replacement. As with Mings - although Longlet hasn’t been bad too often - but mings at times last season was immense

[pablo_picasso]

Lenglets lack of pace means that our whole offside trap is different & playing that high line is a lot more dangerous.

As a replacement for either Torres or Mings, he is much weaker.