Aston Villa vs Spurs post match embarrassment

[Pat McMahon]

I must admit I thought Brennan Johnson was causing problems down our right. I do t think Cash ( wrong studs) and Konsa ever looked particularly comfortable against him

[pauliewalnuts]

I don't think this is a false dawn.

In fact, I think next season could be quite unbelievable. We will have learned so much from being in Europe this season and sitting in the top for the majority of this season.

One of the thungs we've learned is that as soon as we got a couple of statement wins and were mentioned in the context of the title race, we shat the bed. From Sheff Utd at home onwards we haven't been quite right, and fortress Villa Park is now a childrens' bouncy castle.

Exactly this. As soon as I saw that there was a TNT documentary about Emery and his tactics in the week, I knew we'd lose. Every time the media pays us any attention it seems to get into the players' heads and we fuck it up. We don't have the mentality to be anything other than plucky outsiders.

I too am starting to think this.

We were cruising along, routinely winning, not getting much coverage, but then we beat Man City and Arsenal, every fucker, traditional media and youtube footballista gobshites, is talking us up even as title challengers, and what happens is exactly what you could have guessed would happen.

[VillaTim]

I thought our support was dreadful. Most important home game of the season so far and we were subdued and quiet. Like the players its like we don’t know how to act like a top 4 team…

That result would have hit the players hard.

The crowd didn't sing to pick them up during the match, the odd chorus which very quickly fizzled out. Players like Emi, Dougie and Ollie would have been looking around those literallly EMPTY stands at fulltime thinking 'what's the point'. If we don't get Champions League now, I fear they all could be off, and we're back to square one.

Cold, wet, tired, annoyed and now feel like I'm coming down with something. I hate football.

so what , let them go, build again.

[Villan82]

How do we work on the mentality then?

[Proposition Joe]

I don't think this is a false dawn.

In fact, I think next season could be quite unbelievable. We will have learned so much from being in Europe this season and sitting in the top for the majority of this season.

One of the thungs we've learned is that as soon as we got a couple of statement wins and were mentioned in the context of the title race, we shat the bed. From Sheff Utd at home onwards we haven't been quite right, and fortress Villa Park is now a childrens' bouncy castle.

Exactly this. As soon as I saw that there was a TNT documentary about Emery and his tactics in the week, I knew we'd lose. Every time the media pays us any attention it seems to get into the players' heads and we fuck it up. We don't have the mentality to be anything other than plucky outsiders.

Yes, it's like we can act like we belong, but that's what it is, an act. We don't believe deep down. That's probably how we lost twice to Manure, for example, we don't quite believe that we're better, even though we actually are.

[pauliewalnuts]

How do we work on the mentality then?

Buy winners.

Which, due to PSR, we can only do if we sell some of our, errr, current winners.

[LukeJames]

I thought our support was dreadful. Most important home game of the season so far and we were subdued and quiet. Like the players its like we don’t know how to act like a top 4 team…

Considering the season we have had I feel its been flat for the majority of the season. I think our slow build up is to blame. Maybe blames not the correct word as that style has got us to were we are but it's very rarely edge of your seat stuff. It's more measured and controlled, when things are going well it feels like we are watching a fine art and sitting back and appreciating, rather than watching some chaotic thrilling football that fills you full of adrenaline.

[curiousorange]

Everyone knows what it's like to perform a routine task and then have someone observe you do it. It's a rare person who doesn't immediately screw it up.

Mentality wise, if you can solve that, you're in business. I suppose it's eradicating the fear of fucking up, and embracing both the possibility of and reaction to failure.

[London Villan]

Compare it to the almost frenzied atmosphere at liverpool today - it rubs off on the players.

[Toronto Villa]

How do we work on the mentality then?

Buy winners.

Which, due to PSR, we can only do if we sell some of our, errr, current winners.

It’s ok. The sides who benefited before FFP and PSR were implemented can buy the winners from us and we can all watch them continue to win. It’s what they want us all to do.

[curiousorange]

How do we work on the mentality then?

Buy winners.

Which, due to PSR, we can only do if we sell some of our, errr, current winners.

This is an excellent point. How many players do we have that have actually won something? Martinez, obviously. Luiz, McGinn, Tielemans.

[London Villan]

Zaniolo

[JUAN PABLO]

Think individual errors cost us today whether that’s from physical or mental fatigue. The setup restricted Spurs to their least creative 45 all season in the first half.

We then made some stupid, stupid errors - from Konsa giving it away for the second to the worst one McGinn’s red card - that effectively ended the game.

Clearly we were tired and I think the plan was to keep it tight for first hour then open up. But again, we concede in the first 10 of the second half and everything unravels.

I’m absolutely livid with McGinn for the red card - not having him for next 3 games is vital and he let his emotions get the best of him. Worst part of the day for me.

Fortunately we have a quick opp to bounce back v Ajax and then international break.

Shame we cant use the Scottish games in the ban .

[olaftab]

Buendia is pushing the point a bit. We had ample time to replace him, and decided that Zaniolo fitted the bill.

Yes but it’s series of hurdles that kills you not just one.

[eamonn]

Zaniolo

Heh #gregnash