Aston Villa vs Spurs post match embarrassment

[SamTheMouse]

Cash didn't play in midfield.

Correct. It was a back five.

If CDBullyweefan were here, he'd be doing his nut and rightly so.

[Sexual Ealing]

“Well it started badly, it tailed off a little in the middle & the less said about the end the better! But apart from that, excellent!"

Not a good day today. My scores on the doors

Martinez - 6 - didn’t have much to do other than pick the ball out the net a few times.
Cash - 4 - started ok apart from his studs but got worse as it progressed including turning into trouble on numerous occasions.
Konsa - 4 - woeful at first and actually got better as it progressed.
Lenglet - 5 - didn’t seem to do much wrong but lost Maddison for the first.
Torres - 6 - was ok but you can tell he’s not up to speed yet.
Digne - 6 - thought he kept Kulsevski quiet until
Substituted
Luiz - 5 - ineffective
McGinn - 1 - lost his head and was a total twat getting sent off.
Tielemans - 3 - totally ineffective
Bailey - 2 - Mr 50p boots today, back to frustrating Leon today.
Watkins - 5 - ran his bollocks off but not clinical when he did get any ball.

Diaby - 2 - did nothing of note
Zaniolo - 2 - did nothing of note
Moreno - 2 - did nothing of note
Tim I - 4 - helped shore it up and had a few nice touches
Carlos - 3 - nearly gave away two more goals

Unai - 2 - totally wrong set up, handed the initiative to them, one of his poorest performances as the Manager.

I can’t tell you how fucking annoyed I am with McGinn, just when you need a captains performance of control and urgency you get headless chicken and he’ll miss the next 3 games. Time for Tim I to step up.

Think Konsa was more like a 1/10. Lenglet did nothing wrong I thought. And as far Carlos...cameo from hell and then some!

 I'm afraid these days.

You and me both, kid.

[Paul.S]

Well bollox to the thread title, I never have been and NEVER will be embarrassed to be a Villa fan.

But you don't think the team embarrassed us, which is what the title is stating, nothing about the fans.

We were poor today no question, plenty of below average performances. Embarrassing? No, not for me.

Not for me either.

[VillaTim]

I found a live scallop on the beach, I’ve come home and me and my daughter have prepared, cooked and ate it.

Prior to this we was drawing 0-0. I sheltered in a pub for the second half with my family and sank two pints watching us fall apart.

Blame me if you like, but the scallop was delicious.

Why would you do that to 1 scallop ! Let it live, if you're going to eat them as a meal you need at least half a dozen.

[AV82EC]

I found a live scallop on the beach, I’ve come home and me and my daughter have prepared, cooked and ate it.

Prior to this we was drawing 0-0. I sheltered in a pub for the second half with my family and sank two pints watching us fall apart.

Blame me if you like, but the scallop was delicious.

Oh scallops lovely but only 1!!

[taylorsworkrate]

Well bollox to the thread title, I never have been and NEVER will be embarrassed to be a Villa fan.

But you don't think the team embarrassed us, which is what the title is stating, nothing about the fans.

We were poor today no question, plenty of below average performances. Embarrassing? No, not for me.

Not for me either.

I'd say the players should be embarrassed with their effort today. That's a different point though

[Allan C]

OK. Deep breath...

Problem isn't criticising Unai, obviously. He got the setup wrong today, and quite how Cash played the full game is beyond me. It's also as much on him to get the best out of players like Diaby and Zaniolo, who haven't always been shite in their careers, and while there's a lot on them to improve it's also on the coach, every bit as much as it's on him that Watkins is doing so well etc.

I just...I wonder how someone who isn't a Villa fan but maybe wishes us well would react to some of the stuff one sees when he makes a mistake. Without naming names, some do seem to have rather itchy fingers, and then get quite surprisingly intemperate and abusive!

Like, Emery fucked up, but he didn't make Konsa pass straight to a Spurs fan. He didn't make McGinn fly in like a fucking moron. He didn't injure Kamara, in my opinion an absolutely huge loss in games like this. He bears ultimate responsibility for terrible days like today, but he also does for the situation whereby we're disappointed in a result in the race for top four.

Let's keep it together.

You summed it up pretty perfectly mate. Emery, like every manager we’ve ever had isn’t above criticism. But we’re 4th in the league with an incredibly stretched squad. That’s pretty much down to the manager. Today was very poor all over the pitch but with our injury list I’m amazed we’re still challenging for 4th place. McGinn’s challenge was truly ridiculous and yes it was a straight red.

[Pete3206]

We've handed 4th place to Spurs on a plate. The summary from BE was spot on - Aston Villa

[Proposition Joe]

Aston Villa: Giving Sky what they want since 1993.

We have always found a way to fuck it up at the most pivotal moments.

Yep this tendency goes all the way through the club like the writing in a stick of rock.

Why do we so often fall to pieces when we concede? I'd say we miss Mings here to grab things by the scruff when we suffer a setback, but even with him in the team we've suffered collapses.

[aj2k77]

If FFP is a thing next season I think there's some good money to be made off loading Tielemans and Cash.

[Proposition Joe]

We've handed 4th place to Spurs on a plate. The summary from BE was spot on - Aston Villa

It wouldn't surprise me though if we beat Spam and our good friends and allies Fulham do Spurs next week.

[Risso]

If FFP is a thing next season I think there's some good money to be made off loading Tielemans and Cash.

Not if anybody watches the video of today there won’t be.

[Ian.]

I found a live scallop on the beach, I’ve come home and me and my daughter have prepared, cooked and ate it.

Prior to this we was drawing 0-0. I sheltered in a pub for the second half with my family and sank two pints watching us fall apart.

Blame me if you like, but the scallop was delicious.

Oh scallops lovely but only 1!!

Ha! Yes only 1.

I’ve lived here since 1983 and I’ve never found a live scallop so this was a result!

[Monty]

OK. Deep breath...

Problem isn't criticising Unai, obviously. He got the setup wrong today, and quite how Cash played the full game is beyond me. It's also as much on him to get the best out of players like Diaby and Zaniolo, who haven't always been shite in their careers, and while there's a lot on them to improve it's also on the coach, every bit as much as it's on him that Watkins is doing so well etc.

I just...I wonder how someone who isn't a Villa fan but maybe wishes us well would react to some of the stuff one sees when he makes a mistake. Without naming names, some do seem to have rather itchy fingers, and then get quite surprisingly intemperate and abusive!

Like, Emery fucked up, but he didn't make Konsa pass straight to a Spurs fan. He didn't make McGinn fly in like a fucking moron. He didn't injure Kamara, in my opinion an absolutely huge loss in games like this. He bears ultimate responsibility for terrible days like today, but he also does for the situation whereby we're disappointed in a result in the race for top four.

Let's keep it together.

You summed it up pretty perfectly mate. Emery, like every manager we’ve ever had isn’t above criticism. But we’re 4th in the league with an incredibly stretched squad. That’s pretty much down to the manager. Today was very poor all over the pitch but with our injury list I’m amazed we’re still challenging for 4th place. McGinn’s challenge was truly ridiculous and yes it was a straight red.

It was probably a straight red, but even with some doubt in there he's been a complete moron flying in and inviting the possibility.

(Also, clearly I meant 'a Spurs *attacker' in there!)

[aj2k77]

Aston Villa: Giving Sky what they want since 1993.

We have always found a way to fuck it up at the most pivotal moments.

Yep this tendency goes all the way through the club like the writing in a stick of rock.

Why do we so often fall to pieces when we concede? I'd say we miss Mings here to grab things by the scruff when we suffer a setback, but even with him in the team we've suffered collapses.

Defensively we are just pretty poor this season as a whole, we concede 1.5 goals a game, including 19 in our last 10. Isn't very good really.