Standard of Refereeing

[Skipper_The_Eyechild]

I'm still not bothered, though. We ended up in a great position to score, which wouldn't have happened had the foul been given. Amazing foresight by the ref.

[tony scott]

Is shirt now a legitimate tackle?

[Crown Hill]

Ref cam v Spurs

https://x.com/footballontnt/status/2052360079140176132?

[AllanW]

The number of times this PL management through their hired hands PGMOL have denied us results in the last 4 seasons is a scandal. They've rewritten rules after the match to justify some of them, laughed about denying us Champions League last year and on it goes.
They appear to be changing any rules they want to keep the Sky6 at the top and raking in the cash. Disgusting. You don't deserve the power to stage the competition if it isn't fair.

[ChicagoLion]

Arsenal goal against us given, West Ham goal against Arsenal not given.
Cry Baby Arteta has been benefiting all season from PGMOL.

[The Edge]

Arsenal will be the worst team to win the PL since Leicester fluked their way to it. They have hit on the Idea of creating chaos from set pieces resulting in numerous fouls being committed at the same time which allows VAR to pick and choose which one to punish. I suspect that Artetas incessant whining over the past couple of seasons has taken it's toll on PGMOL who have undoubtedly gone in Arsenal's favour plenty of times this season. Yesterday there was a definite foul on the keeper but there were numerous fouls going on at the same time. It's making it virtually impossible to get the better of them at a set piece.
They are going to win the title imo but it won't be a very popular achievement outside the red half of North London.

[Somniloquism]

I expect the foul was mainly given for the defender appearing to grab Raya's far arm to stop him raising it. If he had just had his arm there it might have not been although we are talking Arsenal and VAR.

[LeeB]

I expect the foul was mainly given for the defender appearing to grab Raya's far arm to stop him raising it. If he had just had his arm there it might have not been although we are talking Arsenal and VAR.

Yeah that was as clear as day, that knob yesterday gave them one from our corner when Mings shoulder had brushed their keeper about 10 minutes in and you knew then he was looking for ways to shaft us.

[Mister E]

I expect the foul was mainly given for the defender appearing to grab Raya's far arm to stop him raising it. If he had just had his arm there it might have not been although we are talking Arsenal and VAR.

The PGMOL and PL have failed to grasp this nettle, and it is ruining the English game (I don't think European leagues have had quite the same tolerance for grappling). Given the tolerance afforded in our league, I was surprised that WHU's goal was disallowed even though the keeper did seem to be impeded.
The simple, acid test for the corner-kick shenanigans is: would the behaviour have attracted a free kick outside the box / in open play? - If so, penalise the damn infringement!

[john2710]

If it's accidental grappling it's not considered a factual foul.

[Somniloquism]

Supposedly to ensure games flow, they have decided to allow pretty much anything to happen in the box prior to the ball coming into play where previously the ref would stop play until the interactions have been stopped. Then expect to VAR sort out any potential penalties or goal decisions. So in theory an attacker could trip the gk a fraction before the goal was kicked and it wouldn't be called a foul. It also means VAR is overworked at every set piece because they have to check alot of infringements before a game can start again so fouls are then missed.

[Toronto Villa]

When you consider how far VAR went back to disallow our goal vs Brentford, why didn’t VAR literally go back a few seconds and review Declan Rice rugby tackling two West Ham players as the cross came in. If anything the right decision would have been to disallow the goal because it was a foul on Raya, and then award West Ham a penalty.

https://xcancel.com/usawhu2/status/2053619863210348976?s=46

[dorsetvillian]

Exactly. If it a foul on the keeper then there surely are 2 penalties to be awarded for fouls by Arsenal players. It's a massive call in Arsenals favour that could have just won them the League. When you consider the goals they have scored from exactly the same fouls on goal keepers this season it is a very grey area. The freeze frame of Martinez being fouled at Arsenal this season is an almost exact copy.

[Somniloquism]

In most cases with outfield players, they will go "half a dozen" and state although Pablo was being held around the waist by Trossard(?) before he made the run, and then is having his arm pulled back by Trossard afterwards, because Pablo had slightly done the same thing to him it rules each other out. However if they wanted to rule the goal out for one of those, they will.

[ChicagoLion]

Exactly. If it a foul on the keeper then there surely are 2 penalties to be awarded for fouls by Arsenal players. It's a massive call in Arsenals favour that could have just won them the League. When you consider the goals they have scored from exactly the same fouls on goal keepers this season it is a very grey area. The freeze frame of Martinez being fouled at Arsenal this season is an almost exact copy.

Exactly my point above, the foul on Martinez is almost identical but not given.
They VAR have handed Arsenal the title.
It stinks.