Standard of Refereeing

[Gareth]

Directives are clearly coming from the top so it’s about time Webb’s position was under some scrutiny…the way they implement the rules, the way they use VAR and the lack of honesty when covering the mistakes is no better under Webb than it was under Riley.

I was very firmly in the bin VAR camp 12 months ago however I have now switched to needing it due to the incompetence of the on field refs & the players/benches blatantly cheating.

VAR needs to be used consistently by trained VAR operatives not referee mates, it needs to be transparent ie live streaming the ref link and 100% needs to be conveyed to paying customers properly…

What also has to be remembered is that VAR masks the real problem which is that the standard of the on field officials has at best stagnated but in reality has got worse under Webbs reign IMHO

[Brend'Watkins]

How does he not give that penalty on the pitch, he was right there?

Same way he didn't give in to their penalty shout, he didn't think there was enough contact apparently and VAR agreed with him.

Well obviously that's what he thought due to the outcome but I mean how does he not think there's enough contact? He took both legs. He had a clear view. Sunday league refs everywhere would give it without a second thought, from 50 yards further away.

Clearly there must be some sensor in player's boots that can transmit the amount of force applied to boots and coupled with the motion of the forward player being fouled a message is sent to Atwell's ear piece saying you're a ******* idiot if you think that isn't a penalty.  Atwell sticks by his guns because he's in charge and he has the power.

[edgysatsuma89]

What frustrates me is the amount of time it took to just then have the ref not look at it. Just send the ref over quicker with decisions like that. I doubt it will last much longer than it already does.

[usav]

That's the clearest penalty not given I think I have ever seen.  Certainly in the VAR era it is.  I really want to hear the ref audio for this one.

[LeeB]

That's the clearest penalty not given I think I have ever seen.  Certainly in the VAR era it is.  I really want to hear the ref audio for this one.

How they decide a judo sweep of both legs is insufficient contact I will never understand.

[edgysatsuma89]

That's the clearest penalty not given I think I have ever seen.  Certainly in the VAR era it is.  I really want to hear the ref audio for this one.

How they decide a judo sweep of both legs is insufficient contact I will never understand.

Me neither. There are times where there isn't enough contact, or the attacker has dangled his leg and initiated the contact (which I hate), but this very clearly wasn't that.

[LeeB]

That's the clearest penalty not given I think I have ever seen.  Certainly in the VAR era it is.  I really want to hear the ref audio for this one.

How they decide a judo sweep of both legs is insufficient contact I will never understand.

Me neither. There are times where there isn't enough contact, or the attacker has dangled his leg and initiated the contact (which I hate), but this very clearly wasn't that.

Exactly.

[Rigadon]

That's the clearest penalty not given I think I have ever seen.  Certainly in the VAR era it is.  I really want to hear the ref audio for this one.

How they decide a judo sweep of both legs is insufficient contact I will never understand.

Agree, it was very clearly a penalty. 

[jon collett]

I’ve said enough times that Attwell hates us. Somebody always sneers at it but look what transpired every time. Although it is amusing to see those that sneer then criticise the refereeing after the game.

There’s no way a Warwickshire ref should ref a Warwickshire Club full stop. It didn’t used to happen.

I think for our penalty his excuse was simulation with the way JJ went down. If that was the case he should have booked him.

As it is the not enough contact excuse basically means we know there was a foul but we’re going to claim it wasn’t impactful enough. That’s just nonsense and never been part of football.

[simon ward 50]

That Tarkowski tackle is horrendous.

Apparently he has had something like 63 yellow cards in the Premier League but no reds?

[LeeB]

I’ve said enough times that Attwell hates us. Somebody always sneers at it but look what transpired every time. Although it is amusing to see those that sneer then criticise the refereeing after the game.

There’s no way a Warwickshire ref should ref a Warwickshire Club full stop. It didn’t used to happen.

I think for our penalty his excuse was simulation with the way JJ went down. If that was the case he should have booked him.

As it is the not enough contact excuse basically means we know there was a foul but we’re going to claim it wasn’t impactful enough. That’s just nonsense and never been part of football.

I don't think he hates us, I just think he's shit.

If he genuinely hated us he could have given them two penalties and allowed their goal and it wouldn't have been particularly controversial or out of line with other decisions given in other games.

[Somniloquism]

I’ve said enough times that Attwell hates us. Somebody always sneers at it but look what transpired every time. Although it is amusing to see those that sneer then criticise the refereeing after the game.

There’s no way a Warwickshire ref should ref a Warwickshire Club full stop. It didn’t used to happen.

I think for our penalty his excuse was simulation with the way JJ went down. If that was the case he should have booked him.

As it is the not enough contact excuse basically means we know there was a foul but we’re going to claim it wasn’t impactful enough. That’s just nonsense and never been part of football.

Well he could have easily gave the penalty for their shout which VAR would have backed up. And he could have stated there was not enough of a handball to overturn their goal which again was in his power, or gave the foul against Watkins in the build-up for the second. So no we don't think he specifically hates us. People are criticising him as shit ref, but that is also the criticism when he refs ManU v Brighton, or Juventus v Real then when he refs us. 

[Footy-Vill]

Hope we have a strong ref who will keep an eye on all the off the ball stuff. Horrid team are Forest

Referee: Simon Hooper.
VAR: Michael Oliver.
Imagine being less VAR delays with a more experienced official on VAR than brighton match.

[usav]

That Tarkowski tackle is horrendous.

Apparently he has had something like 63 yellow cards in the Premier League but no reds?

I've just seen that one and that is a horrific tackle a 100% red all day long.  Both decisions last night need investigating.  Of course the Liverpool one will get more focus.

[Somniloquism]

BBC Live text thingy has PGMOL already stating the decision was a mistake in the Scouse Derby. Ours will just be swept under although might be in the Mic'd up thing when it next gets produced.