Standard of Refereeing

[baddowvillans]

This the ref watch view of it.  Disappointed that Dermot Gallagher cant bring himself to come right and say the wrong decision was made but at least Stephen Warnock who is usually fair all round calls it for what it is.  Overall though it feels a bit like why bother it's only Villa

Were Villa denied a penalty for Cucurella challenge?

INCIDENT: Were Aston Villa wrongly denied a penalty after Marc Cucurella pulled Lamare Bogarde down in the box?

DERMOT SAYS: "He grabs hold of him. Does he grab hold of him enough? It looks pretty damning. I don't know why he takes a chance like that.

"The more you analyse things, the more things jump out of you. You look at the last picture and it does Cucurella no favours.  The referee probably thought Cucurella was grabbed first and that's why they ended up arm in arm.

STEPHEN WARNOCK SAYS: "If the ball is one yard away from you and you're in front of a defender and you can't get to that one yard to kick a ball, you've been held back.

"It's more than fleeting. That's a hold. A pull. They missed one there."

[LeeB]

This the ref watch view of it.  Disappointed that Dermot Gallagher cant bring himself to come right and say the wrong decision was made but at least Stephen Warnock who is usually fair all round calls it for what it is.  Overall though it feels a bit like why bother it's only Villa

Were Villa denied a penalty for Cucurella challenge?

INCIDENT: Were Aston Villa wrongly denied a penalty after Marc Cucurella pulled Lamare Bogarde down in the box?

DERMOT SAYS: "He grabs hold of him. Does he grab hold of him enough? It looks pretty damning. I don't know why he takes a chance like that.

"The more you analyse things, the more things jump out of you. You look at the last picture and it does Cucurella no favours.  The referee probably thought Cucurella was grabbed first and that's why they ended up arm in arm.

STEPHEN WARNOCK SAYS: "If the ball is one yard away from you and you're in front of a defender and you can't get to that one yard to kick a ball, you've been held back.

"It's more than fleeting. That's a hold. A pull. They missed one there."

Gallagher looks like a hedgehog as there's so many splinters sticking out of his arse, he's not sitting on the fence there he's grinding it.

[Gareth]

The key word Dermot used there is ‘probably’

[Percy McCarthy]

Warnock is the only one worth watching on that show. Sue Smith is pleasant but inoffensive and just reminds me of that Fast Show bloke who agrees with everybody. Gallagher’s a prick.

[Villa in Denmark]

This the ref watch view of it.  Disappointed that Dermot Gallagher cant bring himself to come right and say the wrong decision was made but at least Stephen Warnock who is usually fair all round calls it for what it is.  Overall though it feels a bit like why bother it's only Villa

Were Villa denied a penalty for Cucurella challenge?

INCIDENT: Were Aston Villa wrongly denied a penalty after Marc Cucurella pulled Lamare Bogarde down in the box?

DERMOT SAYS: "He grabs hold of him. Does he grab hold of him enough? It looks pretty damning. I don't know why he takes a chance like that.

"The more you analyse things, the more things jump out of you. You look at the last picture and it does Cucurella no favours.  The referee probably thought Cucurella was grabbed first and that's why they ended up arm in arm.

STEPHEN WARNOCK SAYS: "If the ball is one yard away from you and you're in front of a defender and you can't get to that one yard to kick a ball, you've been held back.

"It's more than fleeting. That's a hold. A pull. They missed one there."

If you're half a yard in front of the defender you're not reaching back to grab him and bring him closer. Do these gimps have a brain between them?
Fucking arse biscuits the lot of it.

[Villa Lew]

Warnock is the only one worth watching on that show. Sue Smith is pleasant but inoffensive and just reminds me of that Fast Show bloke who agrees with everybody. Gallagher’s a prick.

Sue Smith was the first one to say it was a penalty.

[Somniloquism]

Just been watching the Young explanation and as mentioned, it seems that VAR were calling the ref back for the foul called on Maguire as the clear error, without even thinking he missed the initial shirt pull, which is a clear error.

[Brend'Watkins]

This the ref watch view of it.  Disappointed that Dermot Gallagher cant bring himself to come right and say the wrong decision was made but at least Stephen Warnock who is usually fair all round calls it for what it is.  Overall though it feels a bit like why bother it's only Villa

Were Villa denied a penalty for Cucurella challenge?

INCIDENT: Were Aston Villa wrongly denied a penalty after Marc Cucurella pulled Lamare Bogarde down in the box?

DERMOT SAYS: "He grabs hold of him. Does he grab hold of him enough? It looks pretty damning. I don't know why he takes a chance like that.

"The more you analyse things, the more things jump out of you. You look at the last picture and it does Cucurella no favours.  The referee probably thought Cucurella was grabbed first and that's why they ended up arm in arm.

STEPHEN WARNOCK SAYS: "If the ball is one yard away from you and you're in front of a defender and you can't get to that one yard to kick a ball, you've been held back.

"It's more than fleeting. That's a hold. A pull. They missed one there."

If you're half a yard in front of the defender you're not reaching back to grab him and bring him closer. Do these gimps have a brain between them?
Fucking arse biscuits the lot of it.

It is the lamest of excuses for a supposedly top Premier referee. Besides, it's a clear case of an obvious error by the ref so why didn't VAR spend another minute on the incident?  You can be sure if it was the other way round they'd have given it far more time.

[The Edge]

Just been watching the Young explanation and as mentioned, it seems that VAR were calling the ref back for the foul called on Maguire as the clear error, without even thinking he missed the initial shirt pull, which is a clear error.

Without hearing the comms it's difficult to know what he actually gave the penalty for. If he did miss the shirt pulling surely they should be showing him the footage that shows it. Unless as I suspect they were just going through the motions because ultimately they didn't want the penalty to stand.

[Somniloquism]

Comms when released will be more obvious but Sky pointed out the VAR Twitter account specifically mentioned the foul by MAGUIRE and all visuals were just on the Maguire contact.

[The Edge]

Comms when released will be more obvious but Sky pointed out the VAR Twitter account specifically mentioned the foul by MAGUIRE and all visuals were just on the Maguire contact.

So they decided to ignore the actual reason to give a penalty in the first place. An absolute cop out.

[Somniloquism]

Comms when released will be more obvious but Sky pointed out the VAR Twitter account specifically mentioned the foul by MAGUIRE and all visuals were just on the Maguire contact.

So they decided to ignore the actual reason to give a penalty in the first place. An absolute cop out.

Even Dermot agrees that they cocked up massively by just looking at what the ref called the penalty on without also stating he shirt pull. NOW the ref might have stated he saw the shirt pull and didn't think that was a foul but Maguire's contact was, which is why the comms being released is needed.

[lovejoy]

Its a case of "how can we spin this to make us look less bad".

[dave shelley]

It doesn't matter who replaces Dermot Gallagher they would never come out and openly admit the referee/VAR was wrong.  It's a closed shop and they circle the wagons.  Dermot Gallagher is a nice bloke  btw.

[Drummond]

It's rare for any of these shows to criticise anyone properly.

The whole VAR thing is bollocks.