Standard of Refereeing

[Somniloquism]

For the Young thing, I think the ref would have stated "Penalty for the pull back by Maguire" which is why I think they called him back to the screens to show Young was going down as that happened. He never mentioned the shirt pull as he hadn't spotted it so they didn't show him that. But as referees they should have seen that on review and left the onfield decision to stand anyway, or properly showed all the incident and not the cherry picked views.

[SaddVillan]

Wonder if anybody will produce an end of season compendium of PGMOL/VAR's Greatest Shits?

[lovejoy]

For the Young thing, I think the ref would have stated "Penalty for the pull back by Maguire" which is why I think they called him back to the screens to show Young was going down as that happened. He never mentioned the shirt pull as he hadn't spotted it so they didn't show him that. But as referees they should have seen that on review and left the onfield decision to stand anyway, or properly showed all the incident and not the cherry picked views.

That would have needed editing Spielberg would have been proud of.

[paul_e]

Surely the only thing that matters is getting the correct decision! Obvious errors etc is a load of bollocks.
Get the decision right, every time. Obvious ball out, corner/goalkick, blatant dives could all be dealt with by a quick word from the VAR. It would soon start to improve the overall game.

Exactly, let the people who get 4-5 angles and multiple replays make decisions. There's an argument it slows the game down but our first goal yesterday is a perfect example of why it's bollocks. That should've taken a few seconds to confirm but, because the goal was disallowed on the field, they had to jump through hoops checking everything before awarding it.

[Somniloquism]

For the Young thing, I think the ref would have stated "Penalty for the pull back by Maguire" which is why I think they called him back to the screens to show Young was going down as that happened. He never mentioned the shirt pull as he hadn't spotted it so they didn't show him that. But as referees they should have seen that on review and left the onfield decision to stand anyway, or properly showed all the incident and not the cherry picked views.

That would have needed editing Spielberg would have been proud of.

On what they showed the ref? Not really as they only showed him the camera angles which didn't show the initial shirt pull, but the Maguire pull back / Young collapse. The TV studios see the footage the ref is shown, plus they also had the camera on him and the screen.

[SaddVillan]

So Young's shirt was being pulled to stop him falling over?

How thoughtful and kind of the United defenders.

[hipkiss92]

What the answer? The Premier League?
I think officials need to stand down more if they are poor. We should also use foreign refs too.

If anything the foreign refs are even worse based on standards in the Champions and Conference League we've seen

[lovejoy]

I disagree but there you go.

[cdbearsfan]

The Juventus one was the biggest cheat all season.

[Villafirst]

The Juventus one was the biggest cheat all season.

Serves Juventus right for being dumped out of the Champions League!

[cdbearsfan]

Yep, I wasn't shedding any tears, even though it probably helps Arsenal.

[Gareth]

Using foreign refs is defeating the object for me - we need to make ours better and hold PGMOL to account for the fact they haven’t improved particularly whilst they have been able to hide behind the implementation of VAR.

Getting the correct decision is obviously the end goal but very little beyond offsides and goal line tech has the ability to be factual so the process to judge subjective decisions has to be clear and everyone has to have confidence in the competence of those making those subjective calls…that is what is lacking.

Nonsense like the audio of the Duran red shows there is still so far for them to come to even be adequate let alone correct…

[lovejoy]

My main concern is that they defend the indefensible rather than holding their hands up from time to time.

[kippaxvilla2]

It has many flaws but I do think VAR has evened up the playing field on biased decisions in favour of the usual suspects.  I know it doesn't seem like that at times but it definitely has in my opinion. 

[GordonCowansisthegreatest]

How often do you see a ball sail out of play and within a micro second VAR could say GK or Corner, the ball hasn't even landed but the ref can indicate the correct outcome! Same with blatant dives they could soon be stamped out following a couple of Yellow/Red cards.