Standard of Refereeing

[saunders_heroes]

VAR took an eternity looking at the first goal looking for a reason to disallow a perfectly good goal, then within a blink of an eye they dismissed the penalty incident even though it was nailed on. Absolute joke.

[Clampy]

I saw the Bogarde one back on motd. How they decided it wasn't a penalty is laughable.

[jwarry]

https://x.com/avfcstatto/status/1893427542012334303?s=61&t=5gNHKFDBiIG50p8ei1L0Vg

[Paul.S]

Another terrible refereeing performance yesterday. There was a ruling this season that tactical fouling would be stamped out. I’ve seen it happening in some games where refs have acted. Then, as per the time wasting rule, some decide it’s not for them.
As with the Ipswich game, instead of booking players for time wasting they stand there pointing at their watches and don’t issue yellow cards. Yesterday the tactical fouling was allowed for some time before cards were pulled out.
Then there’s the penalty, what more can you say other than whoever makes these decisions need removing.
They are still unaccountable and role of their mates on TV to back them thinking we can’t see and have no idea about the game.
I’m not one of them, and don’t believe it, but you can see why people shout about corruption. It’s frustration that makes fans shout that but it’s just pure and simple incompetence at every level.

[Rigadon]

I saw the Bogarde one back on motd. How they decided it wasn't a penalty is laughable.

Same just now.  It's outrageous. 

[usav]

How the heck did VAR not review the incident on Bogarde? 

They did, and still got it wrong again.

If they did, it was for a millisecond.  Meanwhile they took an eternity to figure out Rashford was onside, when it was one of the most obvious onside decisions ever.

I’m not one for conspiracy theories, but incompetence only explains so much.

[The Edge]

I saw the Bogarde one back on motd. How they decided it wasn't a penalty is laughable.

It's not just that they didn't give the penalty it was how quickly they dismissed it. Almost as if the outcome had already been decided. I can not for the life of me see why anyone who's ever watched a game of football and has a pair of functioning eyes wouldn't give a penalty. Chelsea AND Man U both getting a clear helping hand from PMGOL this weekend. Something is starting to smell a bit iffy.

[Mister E]

2 other things that refs have stopped acting on:
- kicking the ball away from a set piece was being yellow-carded earlier in the season (Declan Rice picked up 2nd yellow / red card for it, for example). Not now, it seems (a couple of incidents in the Jawdie-Forest really exemplified how refs are now not acting).
- managers are now seemingly allowed to stand outside the designated rectangle in front of the dug-outs. Maresca constantly did it yesterday; Guardiola has been doing it during the current game.

These unofficial changes - like the movement of set pieces and throw-ins, and not retreating 10 yards at set pieces - are eroding further the confidence in refs. It's all really crap.

[lovejoy]

Also adding on time at the end to deter time wasting. We had a few weeks of 8-10 minutes added on and now it’s 3 or 4. That Newcastle game was a 6er at least.

[garyellis]

I know refereeing is a thankless task but currently the standard is unacceptable.
If you google who is the PGMOL accountable to that partially explains the issue.
It must change and very quickly.

[lovejoy]

What the answer? The Premier League?
I think officials need to stand down more if they are poor. We should also use foreign refs too.

[Somniloquism]

The problem with some VAR decisions is knowing what the ref stated to them. Because that is what they have to show the ref got wrong for them to send him to a monitor.

[GordonCowansisthegreatest]

Surely the only thing that matters is getting the correct decision! Obvious errors etc is a load of bollocks.
Get the decision right, every time. Obvious ball out, corner/goalkick, blatant dives could all be dealt with by a quick word from the VAR. It would soon start to improve the overall game.

[Gareth]

If being a referee is a job and the referee trains as a referee then being a VAR is also a job and should be treated as such not just a referee on a day off.

It’s too cozy in the PGMOL

[lovejoy]

But that would take ages (the  VAR checking everything).
I actually think VAR is a good thing (remember the poor FA cup decisions?) but it needs consistent application. The Ashley Ypu g incident is a classic example where the bloke in the booths disagreed with the original decision, but subjectively, so should have been left as on field. Showing the ref the same thing again didn’t add anything other than to pressure him in to changing his mind.
 They also need that automatic offside thing sorted.