Standard of Refereeing

[Mister E]

I'm feeling Bankes has caused problems to players here due to his nature of officiating.

Spot on!

[Chris Smith]

Not usually one to go at the ref but he made that into a niggly game.

Same here, Paul. I hate doing it, people will often bollock a ref for 2 mistakes and forget the 15 correct calls but this ref was absolutely terrible. He completely lost control of the game.

That’s exactly it, he seemed to be guessing decisions half the time and the rest of it just ignoring what was happening.

[GordonCowansisthegreatest]

With the access of VAR, there is no excuse for not getting virtually every decision correct. PGMOL should be scrapped and never seen again. Blatant dives pushes in the back etc are all seen clearly in real time and unfortunately ignored, if it suits the narrative!
These referees know the rules and should be forced to implement them without favour.
It wouldn't take long to improve the game.

[stubbsyandy]

Nothing will change because the refs etc are all looking after each other, the obvious thing to do is to go through footage of the game (not incidents in isolation) and judge whether or not the refereeing is up to the standard required
PGMOL will never do this, it needs independent investigation

[London Villan]

I can understand refs not seeing everything - but with 4 pairs of eyes seeing a ball kicked away should be punished - but that was only important at the start of the season.

[nick harper]

It started with the shove in the back on Tielemans on the halfway line when he was breaking forward which was a clear foul, and things deteriorated from there. I felt he let some really physical stuff go and the players took their lead from that. I know PGMOL wanted to allow more physicality but it went too far yesterday and he never got control of the game again.

[WassallVillain]

I can understand refs not seeing everything - but with 4 pairs of eyes seeing a ball kicked away should be punished - but that was only important at the start of the season.

It was important until Arsenal got punished for it twice and then was slowly pushed down the must be punished priorities. Which has now been joined by blatant tactical fouling judging by yesterdays standards.

[Rigadon]

Ah Arsenal.  Nobody, NOBODY suffers at the hands of corrupt referees as they so obviously do.  I was listening to the Rest is Football podcast earlier, and dear of 'Big Meeks' said that he considered the red card to be the worst ever decision in PL history. 

[Footy-Vill]

Another absolute shocker.
A total joke of a ref, no idea how idiots like Banks actually get paid to ref.

Not usually one to go at the ref but he made that into a niggly game.

Same here, Paul. I hate doing it, people will often bollock a ref for 2 mistakes and forget the 15 correct calls but this ref was absolutely terrible. He completely lost control of the game.

Have you ever seen so many players grab and handle the ball in a match ? Wanting a free kick , officiating it themselves . I haven't ever at this level.
There were several occasions when players took upon themselves to hold on to the ball with their hands wanting a free kick.

[Footy-Vill]

I'm feeling Bankes has caused problems to players here due to his nature of officiating.

Spot on!

Could see it in the match couldn't you ?
Clearly there was not trust in Ref authority and players felt to officiate themselves.
Bankes was being deliberate awkward just to highlight I'm still in charge.

On the occasion Mings handled and caught the ball their were mitigating circumstances, Bankes had the good sense rule and applied it for Ty as he technically could have been booked for it but at least the official took context into account on that occasion.
Booking Mings would have been downright preposterous!

[GordonCowansisthegreatest]

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[PeterWithe]

The only consolation I can take from their lad not getting a blatant 2nd yellow was that it was pretty much identical to the one Onana didn't get at Everton. So consistent. Consistently wrong but consistent.

[Drummond]

Referees are on a hiding to nothing.

People have moaned about referees for ever, it's just that these days every decision is pored over repeatedly, replayed to death everywhere and it reinforces the view they are all shit.

I used to work with a guy who was a linesman and a referee, he said he'd make a decision, being close to the action and would swear he'd got it right only to watch it back on Match of the Day later and realise he'd not seen what he thought.

With VAR, and 4th officials, the system should be more supportive, and objective, but as we saw with the Duran sending off, it was split half and half about whether he should be sent off or not. The Arsenal sending off was a weak one for sure, but that matters not.

I also liked the VAR reviewed sending off in the Dundee Utd game yesterday, the ref didn't change his mind!

[paul_e]

The only consolation I can take from their lad not getting a blatant 2nd yellow was that it was pretty much identical to the one Onana didn't get at Everton. So consistent. Consistently wrong but consistent.

True, but Onana didn't have 2-3 other potential yellows as well. The foul on McGinn that the ref didn't even give as a free kick and the kicking the ball away could both easily have been given.

I've said many times I think there are too many yellow cards given in football which has rendered them meaningless but unless that does change and the threshold is raised significantly there needs to be more consistency. Bankes created all the problems in that match yesterday because the players couldn't know what he expected from them as he just seemed to make it up in the moment.

[ozzjim]

Rogers got a yellow, with no previous, for the exact foul Alvarez then didn't get booked for. This was after kicking the ball away and committing several other fouls. That's not hard to call, it's doing your basic duty.