Standard of Refereeing

[Footy-Vill]

A mate asked me to look at the Lisandro Martínez attempted assault against Crystal Palace - yellow card my arse.

Sky Sports Ref Watch :
INCIDENT: Man Utd's Lisandro Martinez was not sent off for a two-footed challenge against Crystal Palace's Daichi Kamada, despite Palace boss Oliver Glasner later saying the United defender could have broken Kamada's leg.

Dermot Gallagher ex ref says  "I think that's what saved him from getting a red card - that he didn't make contact with the player. He's given the referee a big decision to make. The fact he has caught the ball rather than the player has saved him

I sent a player off once for a dangerous tackle, who didn't touch him. I said he doesn't have to break his leg for it to be a red card."

Steve Warnock pundit : "It's a coward's tackle. The intent is there. I think he's very lucky."

Sue Smith ex player now pundit :"You never get taught to defend like that. That is endangering an opponent."

For me
I wondered if there was some influence by the Argentine against a dislike to a Japanese.
Regards the tackle Alan Smith at the time said it was madness.
It was disgusting behaviour and with such intent and carelessness should have been sent off.

[Mister E]

I guess the issue with Gibbs-White and Rice a few weeks ago was that they were second yellows leading to a red. neither were red cards in and of themselves. had they been first yellows they wouldn't have had that focus. For me Gibbs White won the ball and then there was a coming together. it was much less of a yellow than Martinez for Man Utd vs Palace on saturday. the refereeing issue is consistency, which you'd think VAR would help with.

it wasn't a 'coming together' he didn't take his foot with the ball, he hit the ball, whilst sliding in and out of control and took the player's leg, with a scissor-like motion that could have ended up with a really serious injury. I think the first contact with the player, after he'd got the ball, was on the achilles.

Totally.

[Mister E]

The other big one for me was the bookings for Mosquira and Rogers which were both weird. I assume they were for playing after the whistle but that seems ridiculous in a game that had seen so much time-wasting already and then to book them both was strange as well. From a claret specs viewpoint I don't see what Rogers did wrong, their guy played on so he cut in and won the ball. It led to an injury but there was no foul play so, at best, he got booked for doing something about the amount of time-wasting that was going on when the ref was clearly not bothered by it...

Mosquira got booked for the foul on Watkins, chopping him down as he broke away from 2 defenders.
Rogers got booked for supposedly following through on Mosquira as he lay on the ground.

The first was nailed-on; I'm guessing the second was an interpretation by the ref that Rogers went in for a bit of retribution. I saw it as Rogers trying to play on before the ref blew.

[Mister E]

For me, I wondered if there was some influence by the Argentine against a dislike to a Japanese.

For goodness sake: that's a pretty out-there / unsubstantiated comment.

[martin o`who??]

As long as they are being undermined and intimidated at every level of the game from kids football to the World Cup Final it will continue to be a lottery of inconsistency. How many on here would be brave enough to referee sunday league?? - i know i wouldnt. Sky/TNT etc has twenty cameras at every game and frame--by-frame slow motions etc monitoring and analyzing every decision. Fifty thousand people calling me a wanker every week - No thanks.

[Tony Daleys Shorts]

The referee’s are generally fine and honest. They have 22 players using every trick in the book to gain an advantage, 22 players cheating at every opportuniy. Not to mention coaching staff, substitutes screaming at them for much of the match, claiming every decision go their way. They make it an impossible job.

And all in front of a 50,000 live audience, many of whom are screaming abuse at the from the first whistle and an armchair audience of millions who have slow motion replays from 20 angles to aid their decision making.

They must be mad to do it if you ask me.

[Footy-Vill]

This league cup official tonight was spectacular.Spectacularly awful.

Our players are being fouled yet ref lets play go on and ignores it.Or where there should be a caution doesn't give a card.There was an incident where Buendia had his shirt pulled back and stopped, and there was no award of a yellow card.

The penalty awarded too was completely wrong, though I won't complain so much on that! But it was unfair.

John Busby was his name.

[Drummond]

That rings a bell.

[Bad English]

He hasn't made anyone happy.

[fredm]

This league cup official tonight was spectacular.Spectacularly awful.

Our players are being fouled yet ref lets play go on and ignores it.Or where there should be a caution doesn't give a card.There was an incident where Buendia had his shirt pulled back and stopped, and there was no award of a yellow card.

The penalty awarded too was completely wrong, though I won't complain so much on that! But it was unfair.

John Busby was his name.

You should see some of the displays by referees in the lower divisions.  Last week a centre forward spent all afternoon picking himself up off the ground where the centre half had despatched him prior to heading the ball away. Ref just turned away and followed the game. On seeing this happen the other teams centre half commenced the same on the other centre forward,  Then we had both of them picking themselves up!

[LeeB]

That rings a bell.

I had a Busby teddy when I was a kid, bloody loved that thing.

[Risso]

We had a money box shaped like Busby next to the phone. It doesn't cost much to keep in touch.

[jon collett]

why is Attwell allowed to ref us on Sunday? I've never understood this.

He's from Nuneaton which historically was a Villa town. Him and his dad were season ticket holders at Cov who hate Villa.

[Risso]

why is Attwell allowed to ref us on Sunday? I've never understood this.

He's from Nuneaton which historically was a Villa town. Him and his dad were season ticket holders at Cov who hate Villa.

Luton fan according to PGMOL.

[PaulWinch again]

I always love the idea that a ref would potentially put his career on the line due to a team he/she may support.